Can Fury be an ATG?

Strong reactions against Fury being an ATG. But facts and history prove, he's already well on his way. Spinks and Douglas are the outliers (and even they should be considered top 100 ATG's because of their big wins), most hw's who beat top 25 ATG's while the ATG's have belts go on to be top 40 ATG's themselves. Half of them top 25.

 

Nope, but I never said they were. They beat clearly faded former champs. Fury beat an active champ with a belt, who many (like me) were hoping could still go on to break Joe Louis's record and stake a claim as GOAT. Beating that man is a completely different accomplishment than beating the shade of Tyson or Holyfield.

 

What would punch stats or video side-by-side comparisons prove? Wlad was in there with a totally different animal last night to ordinary guys like Jennings or Pulev.

From the opening bell Fury was on the backfoot using his superior length and handspeed to force Wlad forward and out of his comfort zone. Completely nullified Wlads standard jab/grab routine. Was the stronger man on the inside. I'm stunned this needs to be explained to you. Your hatred of Fury has left you in complete and utter denial.

 

Oh so now you're arguing that Wlad has never in his life seen outside circuital movement & hand speed?

So he never fought Byrd or Chambers, then?

 

HW midgets Byrd and Chambers are you for real? Or did you miss the part where I said 'superior length'

Fury beating Wlad has clearly scrambled your brains

 

He beat a great fighter, and one can easily imagine him racking up a few other good names like David Haye. I think he would easily beat Wilder, though not Povetkin.

What if he beats Wlad in the rematch, beats a crippled Haye, and unifies against Wilder?

 

Fury is already king of the travellers and now king of the world. He has made lennox Lewis his waterboy. He already is an atg

 

I think Fury deserves more credit than you are giving him, IB.

Wlad didn't necessarily bottle it on the night. He was just made to fight in a way that he isn't used to.

Wlad has obviously been very successful, but he is one dimensional and has always been overly cautious and frightened of any aggression from his opponent. He never lets his hands go unless he has a static target in front of him at the end of his jab, can't fight on the inside, never over comits on shots, has to much weight on his back foot and flaps when tagged. Give him some foot and upper body movement and his output decreases dramatically. Fights like the Haye and Ibragimov fight show that if an opponent does not stand straight up in front of him with a high guard and looks like they may be in a position to counter punch, then Wlad is wary of letting his hands go. Even Jennings gave him trouble by not being a statue.

Add in the fact that Wlad has no plan B. The rare times when plan A hasn't worked in the past he has just tinkered with plan A to overcome his opponent.

Fury, as he pointed out many times in the build up to this fight (and many times over the past five years or so) knew this and him and his trainer devised a suitable plan.

Obviously Klitschko has slowed down a bit with age, but even a younger Wlad would still have problems with Fury as, for me, his performance was down to the style and mentality he has had since the Brewster loss and not age.

 

I respect your opinions, but I'd urge you to rethink this one over time, once the sting of Wlad's loss has faded. Clearly Wlad isn't what he was, but he had all the belts and in his last fight clearly beat a consensus top 10 HW. That's not something Tyson or Holyfield could claim.

 

Ib won't ever give fury credit . His been raving on for years about how useless and terible fury is and now his got egg on his face

 

Its beyond pathetic. Total and utter denial

 

Are things that bad where knowledgable fans really think Fury can fight? People please wake up. We have a hwt champion who does not possess basic boxing skills. Over and above this he is a huge lumbering, awkward hwt who slaps and paws with his punches. No symblance in any way shape or form to an ATG fighter and he never will be.