Can Fury beat Usyk with Wilder 2 game plan?

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  1. BrainyBoxer

    BrainyBoxer Active Member Full Member

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    A lot of pundits think he can with this approach. I think it's more possible now because Usyk is older and has slowed down more. If he can drain Usyk out first few rounds it might work to his benefit.
     
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    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Well you'd think that Chisora, Joshua, Dubois, and Fury 1 would all have that game plan, it seems like the only logical way to beat Usyk but theres obviously a reason why none of them have been able to do it.

    1 - Usyks footwork is too good to keep him at close quarters

    2 - Usyk has some stinging pop and accuracy in his punches that puts off fighters getting too close

    3 - Usyk is good at shrugging off a clinch, he also ducks low and throws a looping left hook which ****s the opponents strategy.

    Maybe only Chisora was able to have any reasonable success with this approach but it tired him out more.

    The only actual success Fury had in a grappling capacity came in rounds 11 and 12 where Usyk did look very tired at the end, but grappling Usyk when he is fresher and sharper at the start of a fight would be more difficult.

    I do think the Wilder 2 strategy is worth a go from Fury but theres a chance he may get himself knocked out doing so.

    It's always good though if you can impose a strategy on an opponent they are not comfortable with, Fury took Wilder completely out of his game plan doing so, Dubois has just done exactly the same forcing Joshua to fight going backwards, it will be interesting if Fury decides to go '**** or bust' with this strategy against Usyk.
     
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    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    No. If Fury tries to bully or bulldoze Usyk he is just going to tire out and get KOed himself.
     
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    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    Wilder 2 is Fury's second peak (first peak is Wlad), but Usyk will need a different recipe.
     
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    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    There’s a reason why Fury has been touted by many a pundit over the years, his versatility, his height and his reach.

    He can win by putting it on his opponent, he also can win on the back foot.

    He can train for whatever approach he wants, I can’t see any approach not working, as long as he trains proper, he’ll win.

    It sounds like a weak predictive verdict but when you’re dealing with a super-duper specimen like Fury, less is more when it comes to predictions, as long as he trains well.
     
  6. Csonnyliston

    Csonnyliston Sam Langford P4P GOAT Full Member

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    They why did he lose the first fight?
     
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    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    It seemed like he was training for fighting on the back foot, you need copious amounts of stamina for that.

    Not enough stamina for the first fight it seems.
     
  8. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    Let's just acknowledge that all of these guys get discussed as to whether they'd hypothetically have more success in a second fight and, in some cases, an actual rematch.
    But the only one who beat them all the first time round without needing a second opportunity was Usyk.
     
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  9. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He could, but I don't think he will. He got clocked while going forward in the first fight. If he goes all out from the first bell, he can get clipped earlier.
     
  10. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk isn't wilder
    I would like Fury to box on the Backfoot again early, but use the jab. Even if he is just pawing with it often, but he needs to be busier

    He needs to mix it up. Move backwards and then forwards. He isn't going to beat usyk just by bulldozing him and he hasn't the legs or stamina to keep usyk off for 12

    Hid gameplan was fine first time around. He was just beat by a better fighter on the night. If he starts better and doesn't burn out? He has a chance

    Usyk is favourite but Fury is 100% a live dog
     
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  11. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Yes. Fury had real trouble with Cunningham and decided to rough him up. It was ugly and it worked. I think Fury will try it.
     
  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk wrestles as part of his boxing training. He's not goin to be crowded and bullied.
     
  13. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    He can but he won't stop Usyk he will just win the earlier rounds and not drop 1 & 2 with antics. Put Usyk on the defensive...

    but then he has to survive the final 6 rounds whilst tired.

    Fury seems set that he's going to go after Usyk, he's projecting that atleast...

    He didn't try to put Usyk on the backfoot because he knew that gameplan likely entails getting countered heavily

    Fury isn't going to pull an AJ and lose the same way. He will die trying. I think his pure boxing gameplan in the first fight but tightened up with a little more fitness allows him to edge it but it would be close again.

    His stiff arm pummelling jab is what really ruined Wilder's birthday party in thta 2nd fight and allowed Fury to dismantle him but that jab is now long gone. Without it how are you closing on Usyk? not easily.