I've been asking myself that question all this week. The reason i was thinking of this is because i've been watching fights the last couple of weeks from Floyd and Cotto, but mostly Cotto. In his 140 days he use to overpower people with his punches there was no match, especially his lethal left hook to the body. As he went up to 147 in the Quintana fight there was a slight change but not that noticeable if not paid attention, Cotto although a little bit reckless was boxing more. The sudden change in weight made him think more defensively i guess. Once he went up to 154 his style has changed completely not that is bad, because he has amazing boxing skills, but he doesn't punch with the same authority as he did in the lower weights. He use to trust his power in his early years and sit on his punches which gave him a monstrous power, now he boxes a lot and moves a lot, he can still punch but doesn't do as much as he can to get the most power on his punches. So my question is can 8 oz. or 10 oz gloves make that much of a difference that it can change a fighters way of going in to a fight?, Is the added weight on the others fighters a factor too?(which is obvious the higher the weight the harder you will need too punch), Are the 2 oz difference that much of a factor in k.o. power or body punching? Is Floyds request for 8 oz gloves gonna benefit him or bring back an old cotto, sitting on his punches, body punching relentlessly? your thoughs are appreciated :bbb
I think the difference between 8 and 10 oz is negligible. Its really more in the fighters heads. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRmOOWPTRBs[/ame]
Yes Firstly they make a difference to the skull of the person getting hit secondly you feel the extra weight more when you are exhausted
Going a full fight with heavier gloves does make a difference measuring a single punch against a bag in either glove weight is useless because it's not a real fight situation It also does not account for the damage felt upon impact by the other fighter
Well it's a combination of things..... Firstly it is rare for a fighter who moves up in weight to punch with the same authority / power. If you were a K.O artist at a lower weight and you move up, it is generally noted that you won't be knocking out as many people. Secondly the gloves do make a different the smaller the harder the punch and whilst 2 oz is relatively a small difference it does make a big difference in power AND speed with which you can deliver that punch and we all know speed = power. Thirdly Cotto has got beaten up pretty badly a couple of times and he is also coming to the end of his career and that has probably made him more cautious fighter who doesn't want to go to war every fight when he can out box the majority of his opponents and still get the win.
hes talking out of his ass. 25 percent bigger glove translates to less power. how hard is that to figure out? and if thats not convincing enough look at all the guys that moved from 147 to 154 and were able to carry their same ko percentage. maybe tito/hearns were the only ones to do it in recent times(20 years).
Well, about 30 years ago I fought amateur, and retired at 21-1. I Switch to cycling, made the US national team, and trained at Colorado Springs, where I naturally also hung out with the US boxing team. Good enough for you? Try holding your bare hands out for 3 minutes. No gloves, no punching or legwork. Just hold 'em out there. (if you even can.) Now do that ten times in a row, with 1 minute breaks. Now do it with 8 oz gloves, and then tell me you wouldn't mind another 2 oz. ----- Then there's the difference in impact to your knuckles. It's a small difference, but it matters. And of course, it impacts the effect of the blows. How hard is that to understand?
I wouldn't say he is talking out of his ass he probably has never boxed before that's all. When I first used bigger gloves I couldn't believe how much difference it made to both my power and my connect rate as they are also bigger in size and you are not able to squeeze in some shots with 10's that you can with 8's.
Usually as guy's move up, their KO% goes down because their fighting bigger, stronger opponents who can take their punches better. Not because they suddenly ha to switch to 10oz. Cool. I played football all the way to up colleges D1. But I boxed on the side. I've never had any amateur fights, but I've sparred hundreds of rounds with guys who did fight in the ams. You can definitely tell the difference between 16oz and 8. 10 and 8 is not that big a difference. And the OP wasn't asking about whether or not the glovs affected your stamina, he asked whether they increased power. I posted a video of an experiment which showed that the difference in power between gloves is neglible. [
If you're fast it benefits you. If you're a hard puncher your opponent will feel it more. In the later rounds they do feel heavier. One of my favorite fighters Carlos Zarate used to train with 26oz gloves!!!
Agreed.:bbb:thumbsup The gloves make a big difference. That's why you have bag mitts, training gloves which are usually 12-16 oz, and actual boxing gloves meant to be used in a fight, which as you know is typically 8 or 10 oz gloves. This might vary as well from trainer to trainer and fight to fight, but this is how I have always known it, as a general guideline. I honestly don't get the point of bag mitts or why you use that specific type of glove on the heavy bag typically. I just remember my dad insisting on me using them but he never really explained why, nor did I question him, I just figured "This is what you use". Training and Sparring with 12 or 16 oz gloves is beneficial because they are heavier. It's very simple really. You train with the heavier gloves, then when you switch to the 10's or 8's you can throw with them faster and harder because they are lighter. It builds your endurance a bit as well, throwing those heavier gloves around. Figure at 16oz each glove is a pound, then when they get sweaty they are heavier. So if you can keep those up and flying for 4 rounds(regular amateur fight), you can assume you'll fare quite a bit better in the lighter gloves and not have stamina issues with them trying to hold your hands up the whole time. I felt it at least. I did that and when I switched to the bag mitts from my 16oz gloves my arms and fists felt so much lighter, my jab was flicking out there faster and harder with the same effort. The other thing about bigger gloves though, they indeed do more damage. This too is rather simple really. It's the difference between getting hit with a larger object or a smaller one. Because the circumference of the area of the glove that makes contact is bigger with a 12 or 16oz pair of gloves, that's a larger area effected, causing more direct damage. What that computer couldn't measure on fight science was the actual damage done to facial tissue or bones on impact , just how hard he threw each punch which would vary regardless. Trust me, when a big ass 16 oz glove thumps you in the temple it rocks your head a lot more than a 10 or 8oz glove. E.G. If you throw a tiny pebble at a glass window, it either bounces off harmlessly or maybe makes a chip in the glass. If you throw a normal size rock at a glass window, it breaks the window. Then if you throw a big rock at a glass window, the window shatters. I can't really make it any more simple than that.
