Can Hamed Survived Featherweights Toughest Era?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hardy got stopped by Canizales at bantamweight, there`s no way he could take a hard featherweight shot.
     
  2. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All that and that's what you take away? Proves my point.
     
  3. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Epic.
     
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  4. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As much as I love Winstone Hamed is all wrong for him.
    Southpaw who is probably faster then Winstone.
    With one punch power.
    Winstone was a tremendous boxer but I think Hamed is a bad match up for him.
    Johnny Famechon was a good boxer. Loved his movement and jab but if I'm being completely honest he lost the first Harada fight.
    If he doesn't trade with Hamed I think he has a good chance.
    Problem is he's going to see punches coming from angles he's never seen before.
     
  5. Clinton

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    None of that means he could knock out any feather weight at any given time. That is absolutely ridiculous. There are loads in the history of the sport that he could not have knocked out. I know the Pocket Rocket had a granite chin, but Hamed couldn't stop bantamweight Wayne McCullough. Johnson was 33 when Hamed fought him and didn't have a strong resume himself. Robinson was something like 23-10, which means he lost almost 1/3 of all of his fights when he fought Hamed. Hardy? Old having lost many times Medina? Freddie Cruz? Bungu? Career 122 pounder that nearly lost to flyweight Danny Romero as well as the likes of Ernesto Llerena(I think that's his last name. I don't remember.) He beat 9 or 10 alphabet champions? Big deal. Hamed's resume is littered with has-beens and mediocrities. I had forgotten how mediocre the featherweight division was when he was there.
     
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  6. Clinton

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    Or ancient
     
  7. Cobra33

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    Tom Johnson was the number one rated featherweight in the WORLD at the time.
    Medina went on to capture the featherweight title after his defeat to Naz. He even beat SCOTT HARRISON years latter.
    Robinson Was on an 8 fight win streak and beat almost every top person in that weight class in England.
    Bungu hadn't lost in 6 years and was never stopped in any fight before meeting the Prince.
    Cruz was a very tough pro who was very hard to stop.
    Nobody ever did Hardy inside of one round not even Canizales.
    Not many people stopped Wayne including Morales and Harrison.
    List the top punchers of the featherweight division and Nazs name is on there.
     
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  8. mark ant

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    Johnson was hurt badly in the fight before he met Hameed, he looke really bad plus Hamed had a huge reach advantage over Johnson too. Johnson turned pro in 1986 and in 1991 challenged
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    Featherweight Title, losing a technical decision. In 1993 he rematched Medina and was able to win the title with a narrow split decision victory. Hamed struggled against Medina when they met, he stopped him in the 11th round after an inept display when he got caught repeatedly.
     
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  9. Clinton

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    You want to repeat the same accomplishments of the has beens and pretty good at best fighters in a mediocre division, feel free. But this is what you wrote: "His power alone makes him a threat to knock out ANY FEATHERWEIGHT (my italics) due to he can knock people out with one punch at any time." You wrote that nonsense. You did. Your words. There are certain featherweights he would NEVER knock out. But if you want to continue to make your claims, feel free.
     
  10. Clinton

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    But, but, but...
     
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  11. NoNeck

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    I don't think I've every seen a 122 or 126 knock as many champions and contenders out cold as Hamed, but apparently that is an unsatisfactory result on Classic.
     
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  12. Noel857

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    The hate for Naz on here is unreal.Just because he wasn`t a very likeable character seems to influenced peoples opinions. Say what you want about the quality of his opponents even if i would argue among them there were noteworthy wins,his record of 36 wins,31 ko`s and only one loss makes for impressive reading
     
  13. Cobra33

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    Because you seem slow I'm going to slow it down for you.
    Julian Jackson is a one punch knockout artist. He goes into every fight with the ability to get bailed out by his power. He's what we call a PUNCHER in boxing so when you fight you better be aware he can punch.
    The Prince was the same able to generate tremendous power into one shot. So when you fight him you have to plan for his power because it is a weapon and a pretty major one.
    I will go a little further for you. Danny Lopez was a below average boxer. He wasn't looking to be slick or outbox you. And he was easy to hit.
    BUT if he caught he had the power to knock you out plain and simple. That's why he was so dangerous because he could separate people from thier senses with one shot.
    Still following? Now lets try the other end.
    Ottke couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag.
    But he was a spoiler who had a very tight defense and could really use the ring well.
    So if you fight him his power isn't a main factor(unless your Mundine lol). So you aren't going to be weary of his power as much as his boxing style.
    When people fought Willie Pep they were never scared of his power or ability to hit hard I can assure you that.
    Notice the difference in fighters listed?
     
  14. Clinton

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    Newsflash for you. Just because you are a big puncher like Hamed doesn't mean a guy like Hamed can knock anyone out like you stupidly claimed. Danny Lopez hit Sal flush with some mean shots and the expression on Sal's face didn't even change. Hamed hit little Wayne McCullough all night long and couldn't take him out. You are an imbecile, and I have wasted way too much time on your idiocy. Ignore time for you. Bye-bye dopey.
     
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  15. mark ant

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    No, it`s just that he ised fall off balance when he missed like he constantly did v Medina who caught Hamed time and again till being stopped in the 11th.