Can Haye really beat a Klitschko?

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  1. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what the **** is worng with you? vitali is very slow now, haye has 30% chance to beat vitali if he would run the whole ****ing fight and try to pot shot him like in the fight against valuev, but vitali is very akward. he will get to haye and knock him out, not only because haye' chin is suspect, but the main part is the haye's stamina is **** big time, and he has **** footwork. he is fast, right, he hits hard, right. yeah thats all i can see and he has no ring general ship and his coach is ****.
    wlad is very fast, hits way harder then vitali, and has a great defense. haye wouldn't even land a flush shot on wlad. wlad will KO him cold with a left hook or straight right. i see guys like adamek, povetkin and peter beating haye.
     
  2. Capt Howdy

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    I see it opposite of most; he has a better chance against Vitali than Wlad. Vitali is easier to hit and slower than Wlad so haye has a good chance of outboxing him.

    Wlad's range has proven to be all but impossible to get inside of in the last....how many years? Wlad, if hit, would be easier to KO. But hitting him has been almost impossible these days.

    Yes, Haye has the tools to beat either bro. But it is a very difficult task, and no way would I put money on him beating either of them.
     
  3. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I love that running gag. Prior to every fcuking Wlad fight haters argue that only one punch is needed to get rid of him when in fact, he has never been knocked out cold (stopped on his feed thrice, it's been SIX!!! years now). There's no point in stepping in the ring with Wlad when you lack the power as you're not going to outbox him, true dat, but one clean punch will not suffice - not even from a heavy hitter like Haye. I don't know what exactly Haye can do to defeat him but it must be spectacular and should probably result in a TKO.

    Can Haye beat him? Yeah, if not him, nobody will. Will haye beat him? Unlikely obviously.
     
  4. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    really?

    even with hayes chin?
     
  5. worljamn

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    No! Haye has not a prayer. Haye has absolutely awful balance and footwork. Also, either Klit has tons of shortcomings to take advantage of on this guy. He's a very average puncher for the HW division. Some pop ?Yes. Fierce power on the Klit or even Odlanier Solis level? Hell no! Haye is British hype in the weakest division in all of sports. Oh and by the way David, brothas in America don't wear cowboy hats!
     
  6. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anyone with one-punch KO power has a chance. But it's a very dim one. The Klitschko's use of distance and the jab will neutralize Haye's offense. And what he'll get in return is a constant bludgeoning.
     
  7. rockfish2322

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    Whats funny is that you guys think that Vitali is unbeatable when in actuality Vitali is as close to being beat as he ever was. He really didnt look all that great against a slow, old and asmatic Briggs and Haye has youth, movement and power to counteract what Vitali has. And remember that Vitali was beaten by Byrd who was a great deal smaller yet faster than Vitali. And Wladimir doesnt like any pressure which Haye will do all fight. He also cannot see a left coming to save his life and Haye has a big left.
     
  8. Loufatski

    Loufatski Boxing Junkie banned

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    I see Haye being very cautious as he was against Valuev. He might have some good moments but I think Wlad will walk him down to a UD.
     
  9. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    And how exactly has he looked close to being beat? He's won all but maybe 1 round since returning from retirement? Vitali was not "beaten" by Byrd in case you're just going by Boxrec, he retired due to injury while leading by a large margin. Yes he lost, but he was not "beaten" as you say. No Vitali isn't unbeatable, but Haye isn't the one to prove it.

    Wlad cannot see a left coming? Sorry but you must have missed the 1st Peter fight in particular. Peter was programmed to loop that big left all night, and Wlad blocked it with his glove over and over and over. What's even better is that Haye holds that left at his waist all the time, it'll give Wlad even more time to see it and counteract :D
     
  10. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If he puts the hard work in, has an excellent gameplan, and has luck on his size thean yeah.

    Wlad: has faced hard hitters and people with fast hands BUT, a long time (if ever? not too familiar with the specifics of his resume) since he met someone with both. If Haye used a lot of movement - lateral and head/upperbody - he could probably take away some of Wlads offensive tools.

    Vitali: lots of lateral movement, potshotting and 1-2s could possibly steal a decision. Haye might, just might, have enough power to get Vitali to respect him at this stage of his career.
     
  11. simon850

    simon850 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He will beat them both.
     
  12. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Hes got the tools to do it, its not his power so much as its his speed that could do it, the Klitchkos have made short work of slow 1 dimensional plodders, slow enough to make their jab look perfect. I reckon Haye could get around that jab when others couldnt.

    But then his erratic movement and at times lunging and his eagerness to try knock people out could be his downfall. The Klitchkos are good smart boxers and would train for timing Hayes attacks.

    If i was to place my wages on it i wouldnt bet against either Klitchko against Haye but im not saying he COULDNT do it.
     
  13. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    If he fancied the job he'd have fought one of them by now.

    I think he'd beat Vitali judging by their recent performances, but Wlad would smoke him inside three rounds.
     
  14. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Back to february 11th 1990.

    Can Douglas beat Tyson?


    Here you have the answer for your question.
     
  15. rocky538

    rocky538 Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Puncher's chance at best:blabla