Can Haye really beat a Klitschko?

Haye's Defense? :roflatsch

Jesus people he was getting caught by slow Jabs and right hands from John Ruiz who is basically a glorified club fighter.

Wlad does a great job of hiding his right hand behind the Jab Haye won't even see it coming. Wait and see. :deal

 

I cant see haye beating either of them, im still going to be suprised if he ever actually goes ahead with a fight with either of them, haye is one of these guys who wants everything his way, he wouldnt even accept a straight 50/50 split last time so i dont know how he expects the fight to actually be made, at the end of the day haye is a spoofer

 

its not a suprise when wlad will win this fight he will punish him alone with his fast hard jab wlad has a strong Defends Style to Difficult for Haye. Tko/KO Round 7-8 i think so.

 

Wlad got cut up by Tony ****in Thompson.

Anybody that has the capacity to touch Wlad, touches him.

He has significant holes in his defense. Haye will knock him out. It's not like Wlad can counterpunch, so he'll be forced to be the aggressor against a highly mobile fighter which means he will have to punch on the move.

When Wlad has done this in the past, he looked like an imbecile. Watch his fight with Ibriganov for instance.

But in this case, unlike Ibriganov, Haye can actually touch him, and he will.

Wlad will either get wild (doubtful) or go into a defensive shell...and attempt to clinch....PROBABLE.

 

:rofloops:

Haye is in a different league from Brewster.

 

:roflatsch

Do you even watch Boxing?

Thompson is 6'5" and has an 82 in reach. Of course he could get to Wlad. Haye is not even close to that and have keeps his left way low which makes it even worse.

Haye will not get past the Jab and if he does the right hand is right there waiting for him it is what Klitschko plans for in every damn fight.

It can't be more clear.

 

Ain't that the truth :good

 

Wlad does not pop his jab he uses simple leaves his arm out keeping the range most of the time! haye will be able to get round that and i have no doubt he will take a few on the way in but haye will find a way in and he will explode on wlad face! wlad cant deal with pressure fighters like haye! Haye will not stand there all night taking one two's from wlad like most of his fights he will punch back and that is where you see wlad get ****ed!

Haye will win against wlad by tko!
Haye against vitali is another fight all together!

 

because hardly anyone plays basketball in other countries? I wouldnt expect Ireland or Spain to dominate basketball for 3 quarters of a century.. and did I hear you say Europeans are black?

 

Haye couldn't even get inside of slow as molasses Valuev who has no footwork, no keeping the distance, no speed or skills compared to Wlad. Haye had to resort to back peddling while throwing 11.9 punches a round. And you think he is going to engage Klitschko? :roflatsch

 

I watched Haye not only tag Valuev at WILL and land massive combinations that would destroy Klitschko, but also only get hit a handful of times.

I saw Haye avoid every single one of Harrison's punches, who by the way has a reach 3 inches longer than Valuev, and counter him with huge shots that would destroy Wlad as well.

What you fail to understand is that Wlad's muscles require a lot of energy to throw punches which is why he is very conscious of his workrate, (and the fact that he has no chin), but when he finds that Haye is an incredibly hard target to hit, that also has the speed and capacity to land monster counterpunches, Wlad will either become tenative or erractic.

If he's tenative, Haye will simply bide his time, wait for Wlad to make a mistake, and counterpunch him with likely a left hook or right hand over the top.

When Wlad attempts to clinch, Haye's style and speed will make it almost impossible, and when Wlad lowers his hands, he will leave his chin wide open.

Wlad is not a counterpuncher. He can't wait for Haye to shoot in because that's not his style, and he doesn't have the defense nor the know how to do so. He can barely even bend at the waist.

So Wlad will attempt to stalk Haye at the range that is comfortable to him, but he will find that Haye is extremelly hard to hit due to his mobility and his defense.

THEN as I said, he will either become erratic or be reluctant to throw.

 

Ok look at the ruiz and barret fight. he threw more than 11 punches a round then! you cant base all of haye's performances on 1 fight! Haye was over a foot shorter in that fight and no other heavy weight has beaten him so his game plan worked!!!!! the same way his game plan to ko wlad will work!!! Valuev 50 fight never lost then tinny little haye comes along and beats him hahaha haye can bang and bang hard! Wlad will loose big in this fight there is no way he will stand there getting jabbed all night!:nut

 

OK, I quit reading there Haye threw a disgraceful 11.9 punches a round while running backwards the whole fight. He landed ONE good punch and was too scared to follow up on it. I am not even going to discuss this with someone so delusional.

 

Umm, Chagaev beat Valuev before Haye did and he did not resort to throwing 11.9 punches a round or running he went in and out with multiple combination over and over. :rofl:rofl

 

But you don't understand boxing.

You criticize him holding his left hand low, but why is it that almost all the greatest defensive fighters used a similiar style?

And you also ignore the fact that Haye hurt his left hand as early as the second round, and was landing shots on Valuev that would have knocked Klitschko's jaw in the 3rd row.

And why is it that Wlad never fought Valuev, when Haye had no problem?

Wlad musta been scared after gettin cut the **** up by Tony ****in WHO Thompson, that he realized he has no REAL defense and Valuev would touch him even easier with his longer reach and more aggressive style.

Klitschko doesn't want a hard fight.

He's making a big mistake with Haye, but it will end quickly.