Can I Justifiably Exclude Jones Jnr & Hopkins From My 160lbs Top Ten?

Good list. I currently place Hopkins and Jones a little outside my top ten, too. Nonetheless I still have them above Steele, Zale, and Tiger, as I favor including a few fighters primarily rated in other divisions:
1 Greb
2 Robinson
3 Ketchel
4 Monzon
5 Hagler
6 Fitzsimmons
7 Langford
8 Walker
9 Burley
10 LaMotta
11 Charles
12 Hopkins
13 Jones Jr

 

To me jones is not top 10 at 160 in terms of carrer.h2h maybe he is. But his best was at 168

 

Robinson at mw is not above monzon no way

 

Based on resumee and body of work at 160? Jones yeah you can exclude him....but Hopkins? no

 

I agree,hopkins in fact is a top 5 in my view

 

This...He's hit and miss at 160...He isn't dominating like others at middle. Light middle would've been perfect for him if it existed then

 

It is a matter of opinion. That's that ..

 

He did a lot of defences of the title, 20 defences between 1995 and 2005.he still has the record in the number of defences of the title.he did beat guys like an undefeated glen johnson,trinidad,de lahoya, marvin hagler rates bernard and monzon in his same level he said that on a radio interview.

 

Can imagine Robinson at light middle .He's probably making 15 defences easily .

 

For me the best ever at 147 and 154 if it existed back then lol. His form isn't stretching consistently enough for me Fergy at 160 to have him battling it out for a spot with Monzon Hagler Hopkins GGG ect.

 

I have Hopkins top 5 but Jones wasn't there long enough to be top 10. On a pure H2H list one could argue him forward.

 

This is why it annoys me when people **** on GGG's career and opposition, and praise Hopkins. Bar 1 or 2 fighters their careers are quite similar in that they had/have average opposition, with great lighter weight fighters coming up and challenging them, also they've been dominating and unquestionably no 1 for years. Not a fat lot in it at all no matter how fans cut it imo