Can Lomachenko become the best ever?

Quoted to make sure your credibility or lack of is exposed in any Loma thread.

 

The Best Ever (category), Loma can be TBE in more than one category, by the time he is retired.

 

The "eye test" alone tells/shows me a tool box that nobody else had in this game. He just might not have enough dance partners around him to qualify either. Bringing a past prime pacquaio down to 140 or a Mikey Garcia are not enough and asking him to fight up at WW is unreasonable.

 

whats nonsense is the way people pretend to be so sure that loma will be, not just an atg, but the goat. if they had followed many boxing careers over the last 40 years, they could better compare how bonafide atg's compare against mediocre opposition, and wouldnt be so liberal with the hyperbole.
it happens every time a boxer shows promise, those that identify with them on a personal level get all carried away. i love to watch loma, he is very, very talented, but just because he dominates b level fighters in a whole new way, doesnt mean this new way will be enough to even scratch the surface of atg. ive seen him get hit, and there are some serious bangers on his horizon, the likes of which he has never seen, cause these are real A class fighters who can put you down at any time.
the guys who can give him an atg legacy are all north of 130 and i figure hes got maybe 3 years to get them in the ring before he starts to slip, thats assuming he can even be the same fighter with 10 or 15 lbs extra weight. this isn't a 22yo kid growing into heavier divisions, this is a 30yo man who relies on his quick feet and reflexes, things that will be affected by the extra weight, adding bulk to his narrow frame.

 

That is similar to how I feel but much different that just saying he is not good enough.

 

He got too late a start to be the best ever. There are guys who have beaten forty top ten fighters, guys who had to fight ten times a year for twenty years to rack up their records. Lomachenko has had 11 fights and might have another 11 in him before he calls it quits. He'd have to fight up to middleweight or higher to do the kind of weight jumping the best in the sport have historically done, but he'll probably top out at lightweight.

If he'd gone pro at a normal age 18-20, he would have had an opportunity to be the goat, but I think that prime Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez eat him alive. Then he'd have to fight Edwin Valero, Jorge Linares, Chris John, Takashi Uchiyama, Rafael Marquez, Hozumi Hasagawa, and Yuriorkis Gamboa. If he did all of that in the time that he actually spent as an amateur, then what he's done as a pro, plus in the next five years he beat Mikey Garcia and Terence Crawford, then a persuasive case could be made that he was the GOAT.

 

What if his future opponents continue to quit on their stools?

 

Then that says the state of modern boxing has hit a nadir and the sport is populated entirely by quitting cowards. Being king of that **** mountain is nothing to crow about.

 

I don't think he has enough power. He won't be able to keep bigger guys off as he moves up in weight.

 

Loma is doing everything needed and fighting everyone he can get his hands on to prove he belongs there with all the previous greats. I can’t understand the hate for him, he’s a genius in the ring and a breath of fresh air taking on anyone that wants it or is in his way. The same ****s hating him are probably still sucking Mayweather dry after the last 10 yrs of strategically picking and avoiding and giving him a pat on the back for it !

 

It proves he’s another level to past greats, where the comp can’t even compete with him...

 

Is English really necessary to become TBE? If so, then no foreigners will ever have a TBE title ever. Specially when the ones that decide on TBE are Americans

 

To me, the "TBE" title requires quantity and quality.

Loma can probably satisfy the quality requirement, but he doesn't have the years left to attain the quantity.

 

Yes, if Bob Arum allow him to fight! Hell, Arum is wasting Lomachenko's time................Linares refuses to fight Lomachenko, Mikey Garcia refuses.................

 

He can always fight Miguel Berchelt.