Can making boxing a scholastic sport bring it back to where it was?

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  1. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    I've been wondering this for a while ... if there was a way to put boxing in schools would increase the popularity of the sports amoung the youth and possibly revive the sport.

    There are alot of kids who don't have anything to do ...

    And then they're are alot of kids who just think they're tough and want to fight all the time. Putting that negative energy to use may help kids in many ways.

    It may give those kids who don't have the skill or the ambition to do other things a reason to do something. It may boost the amateur experience and the level of competition in the amateur ranks. I know as an American this would be a perfect outlet and give more of a balance to the fight game. Instead of a Michael Strahan type of guy playing football - he would desire to become a boxer and who knows may even give the US a legit HW champion.

    A gateway to; stay out of trouble, build confidence and self esteem, discipline, focus, and a great way to bond and build relationships.

    I know this idea is far fetched but if it were possible would there be a significant change in your eyes?

    What do you guys think?
     
  2. NickBarker

    NickBarker Damnum Absque Injuria Full Member

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    I think you have a great point. A lot of the problem with American boxing is that it has to compete with so many other sports that have stronger organizational structures in terms of attracting and developing young, elite athletes. Football and basketball are especially indictative of this.

    A big part of the deficiency is that football, basketball, baseball, etc. have teams not only in youth leagues throughout the country (not just in urban centers), but also the lack of any outlet for many high school children to hone their craft while representing their school.

    Scholastic boxing would have the advantage not only of increasing the visibility of the sport among those who may not have the initiative to seek it out on its own; furthermore, it would be funded by a third party (the tax payer) and not burden poorer children.

    It would do a lot of good for the sport in this country. That being said, I doubt it would ever materialize.
     
  3. jones1

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    20 years back or so didnt they make it part of gym class? Like they would show you the jab and cross and then they would make you spar with someone your size for 60 seconds or something?
     
  4. southpawslick

    southpawslick Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What the hell is it with boxing fans wanting to make it a mainstream sport? Don't you realize that making it popular and minatream would ruin it? It would become PC and sanitized and have no personality like the NFL, NBA and other mainstream sports. I could see some little commisioner type like David Stern making Chico Corrales apologize publicy for beating his wife, or making BHop grovel for racist comments. Why don't we just enjoy the last sport that has personality and is real for what it is? Take the good with the bad, not being mainstream is a good thing imo.
     
  5. fitzgeraldz

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    Great points ...

    I think that some fighters and promoters would gladly contribute to the cause and break off some money.

    It would give some fighters a chance to actually develop ... its so terrible that most American amatuers only spend 48 months developing their skills as amateurs and turn pro - alot without any international experience.

    I don't think that winning 2 golden gloves or US national championship is quite enough experience.
     
  6. fitzgeraldz

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    I don't think that the US is as concervative as it used to be ... I think that the biggest issue would be more about the money. I don't see boxing less violent than football or wrestling.
     
  7. Kostya Zoo

    Kostya Zoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    there's so much more bad than good.

    Honestly, watching boxing costs too much ****ing money, and it takes too much effort to follow. gotta subscribe to HBO and showtime and PPV's, the good fights are few and far between, big fights only take place in certain locations....it's really inconvenient.

    really, you're willing to put up with this so you can hear Hopkins be a racist and get away with it?
     
  8. NickBarker

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    Well, less conservative in some areas, seemingly more so in others. This country in many ways, particularly in public schools, has embraced a culture of sensitivity and over-protectiveness. Case in point, dodgeball has been banned in many schools. I've heard anecdotal reports about children not being allowed to play tag during recess due to its detrimental effect on the self-esteem of some.
     
  9. southpawslick

    southpawslick Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yea when you consider the alternative. Do you really want another sanitized politically correct feminst censored big coroporate entertainment that we call sports?
     
  10. jones1

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    Nah i dont really agree with that. Boxing used to be mainstream sport and has had personality since way back. I mean look at Jack Johnson, or Ali. Not to mention that sports like MMA is becoming mainstream because of personality, because of drama, like Kimbo Slice fighting off the street and is known as a hard guy off the street so hes marketable. Guys like him are gonna make MMA mainstream. The shady side of boxing has always been around and if it went mainstream theres no chance that the personality would go away or it just wouldnt be boxing.
     
  11. fitzgeraldz

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    I don't know what you're talking about ...

    I'm talking about on an amateur level --

    Boxing is and has always been mainstream ... from Sugar Ray Robinson selling 70k tickets to a fight or Joe Louis carrying the nation on his back during his fight with Max Schmelling ... or Julio Cesar Chave bring 100k fans to watch him fight in a soccer stadium.
    or Tyson and Lewis splitting a 100m purse --
    or Floyd and Oscar having 2 million ppv buys at $50 a pop --

    The development of young fighters w/ their boxing skills and their development as people would bring the sport to where it has wanted to be.

    A season where boxing can be on display for kids in elementary, grammar school, and highschool -- kids getting to travel to different towns, states, and countries ... having them build bonds and develop relationship skills.

    getting the chance to see things - otherwise they wouldn't have the opportunity to see.

    learning different cultures and backgrounds ... seeing different boxing styles ... developing their own styles ... having their favorite boxers from the pro ranks who they want to model their style after ... a broader fan base amoung young people.

    more heads on ESB --
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Soccer moms would never have it.

    Hysterical bitches got Prohibition passed, remember? :deal
     
  13. southpawslick

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    Yea I have no problem with that. It was mostly just my rant over the way boxing fans are always crying about the sport not being popular. You're right about the ams though, its one of the best experiences a guy can have.
     
  14. fitzgeraldz

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    Instead of a boy or girl picking on someone because they think they're weaker than them or they want to prove how tough they are ... they get into the ring ... maybe they do good ... maybe they get owned ... but overall they get humbled.

    Alot of negative energy can be channeled many other ways than just taking it out on someone who has nothing to do with it or wants no parts of you.

    Boxing teaches you more importantly discipline ... and you can carry that discipline outside the ring.

    It could open up scholarships to college as well ... it would be even better on a collegiate level as well.

    Actually develop skill before you turn pro --

    You don't see guys like Floyd Mayweather or Oscar De La Hoya getting into fights outside of the ring. Those guys wouldn't waste their time getting into a street fight --

    I can see a team aspect being brought into it too -- wearing your school colors ... having a fighter boy or girl represent each weight class and doing the damn thing.

    I know in michigan they would support that **** --