Can making boxing a scholastic sport bring it back to where it was?

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  1. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's what you get in the burbs, man. My original one in MD was 25 a month.
     
  2. jecxbox

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    lol wow, **** that. We got Israel Acostas as the trainer here. 500 amateur wins with only 16 losses. He actually has connections to bring in some decent guys in to spar. Brought in Eric Morel and Antwon Echols recently to spar some of our guys. All that and still 100 bucks a fkn year.
     
  3. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Watch Eric Morel around your female boxers.
     
  4. Tencount85

    Tencount85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Could certainly help but I doubt most would want to get punched in the face for a living when they could make much more playing ball (Football, Basketball etc.)
     
  5. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    :lol::rofl

    What you think about Eric Morel vs Penalosa?
     
  6. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably Penalosa. Hasn't Morel been in jail for a few years? Gerry's pretty damn good too; but I haven't seen Morel fight in long enough to comment accurately. My initial reaction would be to lean towards Penalosa by stoppage though.
     
  7. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Morel is on a little winning spree and he's in with Bob Arum. Supposively thats the fighter Arum is trying to get him in with. Since Morel is at the end of his career and trying to get him back into 1 last run, they are trying to get a known name like Penalosa to jump start his career. If he losses that one its pretty much over for him.
     
  8. fitzgeraldz

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    I'm not an average poster and i'm a boxer fan to heart ... I seriously believe that if boxer were available to kids in school that it would help more than it would hurt. Kids wouldn't be so quick to pick up a gun ... kids would socialize more and have something to be recognized off, rather than being a class clown, a nobody, a tough guy, or a person who doesn't do anything with their lives.

    I'm sure if scholarships were available for boxers you would have a significant increase in high education rates amoung young people.

    This would not only benefit the inner city but it would also benefit rural areas, suburbs, and upper middle class students.
     
  9. fitzgeraldz

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    You don't feel the punches till after the fight ... but there's alot of self respect that comes with taking a punch win or lose.

    Add to that there would be head gear and extra padding in the gloves --

    It would really give kids something to look forward too and there are alot of closet boxing fans out there.

    They might not be fanatics like most of us are but they would surely pay attention to the sport and the latest news.

    As long as there's a strong emphasis on bonding and sportsmanship there shouldn't be a huge problem ... its no different than a parent taking their kid to a karate dojo so they can learn how to protect themselves - then the kid turns out to be a standout in the sport --
     
  10. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It did work up in Great Falls, MT. There are two high schools in town; they got a group of students registered with USA Boxing, welcomed all of them down to the gym in town, trained them for a month or two, and put on a show in town featuring 11 inter-school fights, one in each weight class. They said it was huge, huge turn out and huge fundraiser. The school that's student mainly went ended up winning the card, 9-2. :D And who knows, maybe you get a few new guys who want to do it again out of it.
     
  11. Jaaames

    Jaaames Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think boxing would serve well here.... Playing basketball is fun and everything but it's almost rare for anybody from this area to even get a b-ball scholarship and plus they rather graduate and play ball at the park for free...
     
  12. fitzgeraldz

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    if there was a kid that stoodout that came from a nice family and held good o'l american values there would be no problem with some parents.

    its a matter of nature over nurture ... you have to let kids scrape a knee or experience some pain for them to know how the world really is ... when you shelter kids and try to protect them from every element of life they're not able to adapt as well as a kid who has experienced something.

    I know people who have been sheltered there whole lives and have turned out to be terrible adults ... they have bad social skills and aren't able to relate to most.

    prime example ... Columbine ... the trench coat mafia dudes had bad social skills ... bad relationship building skills and in turn - turned out to be outcasts and sperated themselves from others.

    Its a shame but i'm sure that adding boxing to the sport would be one small step.

    I'm sure that you would have some people who try to ruin it but the majority would embrace it and take advantage of the opportunity.
     
  13. Bslice

    Bslice Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You'll have better luck with it at college, as your allowed to create clubs that involve combat. At public schools, there would be too much outrcy from the community to allow a sport that is considered violent. Imagine trying to sell the idea "That boxing is as much a sport about not being hit as it is about hitting your opponent" I can just imagine the dismissive looks you would get from officials and PTA members. It would be a great way to bring awareness of the sport but, the trouble is no one will allow it, for god's sake they have ban dodgeball in schools now because it is too violent.
     
  14. fitzgeraldz

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    I think it would work ... you get USA boxing ... goldengloves, some successful boxers, and some promoters to advicate for it - I think it would workout nice.

    It would also give some boxers a chance to give back outside of a financial sense --

    Collegiate scholarships ... more graduates on a percentage level ... kids less fortunate getting a chance to atleast obtain a college degree ...

    It wouldn't be like basketball, football, or baseball ... because unlike those sports ... the truth will show earlier in boxing than it would in those other sports.

    You can see early on that where your skill set is and only time will tell for most and it would weed out some of those imposters in the game today.

    Just think ... a young person winning national titles on the grammar school, highschool, and collegiate levels - then transitioning that into an international amateur title... then a professional world title.
    A kid who other wise would be doing nothing ... smoking weed ... committing crimes ... fathering tons of children ... never obtaining any form of formal education.
    I'm sure the hype wouldn't be around most fighters given that they have proven themselves throughout the years ... and each level you go up in ... would require a bit more than the other.

    Grammar school - 3 rounds
    highschool - 3 or 4 rounds
    college - 4 or 6 rounds
     
  15. fitzgeraldz

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    But you would control boxing just like you would any other sport ... you would hold meetings ... have certified refs ... have standards that students would have to meet ... it would motivate kids to do something - to achieve something ... to have a goal at something.

    You can't tell me a parent who knows that her kid is going nowhere in life wouldn't take the chance on her kid doing something constructive.

    How can you say the sport is too violent when you're a boxing fan yourself.

    How can the sport be too violent when you have other violent, full contact sports - that are glorified on a national and international scale?