Can Mikey Garcia beat Lomachenko? Why Pedraza seemed to have so much success

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    And most people gave him 1 round, 2 tops. Few gave him 3 rounds.

    Loma I say again didnt tee off on Pedraza except for the 11th.

    My point was Pedraza did not bother Loma. He won 1 round and barely landed anything the whole fight.

    We are used to seeing Loma dominate people and make it look like there are 3 Lomas in the ring. The Pedraza fight was more of a defensive showcase. The reality is Loma showed against Pedraza that he has some seriously legit defensive skills.
     
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  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You ****boi ***** ass racist. I mean its crazy for me to think the best fighter of the era whos arguably the best defensive fighter ever best counter puncher best ring iqs ever. Would outbox a guy who he would dwarf in the ring who can fight tall and dictate distance and control range with better reflexes and good pop at 135 would beat loma. I mean the nerve of me how dare me it's crazy to evem suggest it. Loma destroys all duran pac pbf pea whitaker jcc srl hearns Pryor hes unbeatable the best to ever live.

    Nah dumbass pbf would catch him coming in with straight right hands clean tear his skin up counter him rough him up own him on the inside and bust him up outboxing and possibly stopping him. Pbf is a stylistic nightmare for loma and he has him beat in pretty much every department.:deal:
     
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  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Loma has great talent. Floyd has beaten Hatton, JLC, Corrales, Canelo, Hernandez. None of those guys have great talent though.

    The fighters with great talent that Floyd has beaten are Marquez, DLH, Mosley and Pacquiao. But all of these guys were on the downside of their careers when FMJ fought them.

    Loma vs FMJ would be the battle of guys who never fight great talents in their prime.
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Wake me when Mikey fights someone actually worth a ****, and not a blatant Brook-GGG like cash grab in Spence. He did about as well against Lipinets as Erick Bone did, and did marginally better than Shafikov and Commey did against Easter. The only elite fighters Mikey has faced were at Featherweight, and they weren't all that elite themselves. Anyone ever notice Mikey doesn't actually fight boxers who have a snowballs chance in hell of actually outboxing him? Elite my ass.
     
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Pbf-loma wouldnt be a battle it would be a cruel joke and a mismatch.
     
  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who knows? What if Mayweather if Mayweather can't land on Lomachenko? FMJ likes to throw 1 or 2 punches at a time. A guy like Loma might be able to decipher that type of attack.
     
  7. Pimp C

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    Pbf beat canelo a guy you forgot to mention you know canelo a guy pbf shut out and a guy who ggg drew and lost to.
     
  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I mentioned Canelo and Canelo is not a great fighter. He forfeited greatness when he vacated the belt to delay the fight. There is no coming back from that. Its not like you can blame it on network disputes.
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Stop it ! Pbf is one of the most accurate punchers in history wishful thinking and what if scenarios dont work. If thats the case what if loma struggles to land on pbf which is a very realistic scenario since he's arguably the best defensive fighter of all time.
     
  10. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    I’d favor garcia
     
  11. Pimp C

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    My apologies i missed it. Canelo is a great fighter he has a good resume and holds a win whether you like ir or not against ggg.
     
  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lomas defense is too sound to be hit often with single shots. Mayweather would have to get more creative with his attack otherwise Lomachenko will block Mayweathers punches.

    I think the fight would be a close fight that goes either way. Neither man does much landing. It's an absolute snoozer fight. Mayweather throws mostly single shots. Most get blocked or ducked. And Loma throws single shots and combos but none do any damage at all.
     
  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hes not a great fighter. He forfeited greatness. It's absolutely inexcusable for a guy in his prime to vacate a belt in order to delay a fight.
     
  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    At 135 pbf threw more combos and had a higher workrate.
     
  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Also this fight will simply not happen. Bob Arum refuses to let his A listers fight on enemy network. And Al Haymon is the biggest hardliner in boxing today, maybe even ever. He makes Arum look like an civil negotiator which is almost impossible to do.
     
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