Can Mikey Garcia beat Lomachenko? Why Pedraza seemed to have so much success

From a GRJ vs Mikey Garcia thread from Feb 2012

One poster said ''GRJ will tap that ass''

Manfred's response


and Mikey knows it.

On a Mikey Garcia invites Gamboa to come get sum thread from 2013

One poster said

''Mikey Garcia will get his toughest test's at north of 130, he is young... just 25 and can still fil in and has the power to move up.. he is gonna be the closest thing possible to a JMM reincarnation for me

He won't get truly tested till he takes on bigger guys, his skills and power at 126 is to much for anyone to handle right now at 126''

Manfred replied to it with this


Ain't Gary Russell Jr. at 126?:huh

On a Who's next for Mikey thread from 2013


Like I said, GARY RUSSELL JR IS AT 126, WHAT THE **** IS UP WITH THAT?. Don't act like he is not qualified because we know better than that. If Mikey moves up then I ain't got no hate fkor that but when I read people talking about 126 is dead and ain't no fights to be made, well that's just dissing Gary and that's some bull****.:bbb

GRJ vs Abner Mares thread 2013

One poster said

''Russell Jr. will beat the **** out of Mares right now''

Manfred's response


You got that right. will beat the brakes off his ass.:yep

Mares ain't got no real skills, he a rough and tumble with a lot of heart and grit. However skills pay the bills and Russell has skills up the yang yang. He also has speed and power. If you wanna see a real ass whoopin, put Mares in with Russell and your wish will be granted.:bbb

2013


****, that's wishful thinking. They avoiding GR like the plauge, pretending like he's not ready.:scaredas:

Russell has fought more pros than Lomanchenko and I believe he would have knocked both Salido and Lomo's asses out.

Loma vs GRJ thread 2014


If he fights Russell, that will be his second loss.

He can't learn **** from Salido that will help him with Russell. Two totally different animals.:bbb

Another Loma vs GRJ thread


Knowing how Bob Arums funky ass works, it won't be Russell. He will do that Pac thang and put him in there with some easy money and hype it up. If that's the case then Russell is certainly the wrong fighter cause all Russell is bringing is a serious ass whooping and old Bob knows it. Pac is vacant title king.


Russell is ready, all this talk about who he hasn't fought is irrelevant. His skillset is evident and what I see, it on par with Lomachenko and his speed and pop will carry the day for him in the fight.

After Loma paddled GRJ's ass


I think that Luft knows that and is referring to the Russell now and he is a different fighter mentally. I would love to see him and Loma again. As for Loma and Walters, that's a 50/50 fight. While Loma has the technique, Walters has the power and the dog in him and that uppercut could spell doom for the Lama man. If Loma can keep him honest then I give the edge to him.

When he comes for Loma's ass, Loma will be clean in another division. Loma is on notice, he caught Russell at the right time. Russell was still green and Martinez was just waiting for somebody to knock his no talent ass out. The only dog he's been in there with is Salido and Salido don't have the precision, movement or power of Davis. Russell is ready for his ass now but he ain't looking back. He moving through these divisions picking off the weak. You can only do that for so long.

2016


If they don't know, they will know. Mr. Russell is about to tear some ass up. It's come to Jesus time and mercy is not in his vocabulary. He wants Loma like Joe Louis wanted Schmeling. I can't wait.

2017


No offense taken but I beg to differ. Regardless of how Loma starts, when he does start it's the same strategy and the same moves. His style worked fine in all his fights except the Salido fight. Instead of making adjustments, he just gutted it out and it costed him. How much figuring did it take for Sosa, Rocky, or even Russell who was really a novice when you compare his experience against Loma's. Loma is blessed with two attributes. His speed and his stamina. His ability to adjust his style or reconfigure his punch selection has yet to be seen