can mosley do what naazim richardson wants him to do?

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  1. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    remember mayorga? floyd is 1o times the fighter. what i think will happen is if floyd beats shane by a wide U/D, all you're going to get on here is shane becoming shot over night.
     
  2. Cocteau

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    You can't teach old dogs new tricks.

    Mosley could have the best trainer there, but it's still him and his 30 year old worth of boxing habits that will step in the ring on fight night. Example, his habit to throw wide swings will always be there on fight night, Floyd will feast countering or sneaking a punch on that.

    I simply can't see the best Mosley version beating the Mayweather that showed up in the last 3 fights.
     
  3. sbbigmike

    sbbigmike Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Simply put no, Shane has no head movement at all, he's not gonna gain that at 38 years old.Mosley darn sure aint gonna out box Floyd, didn't Gatti try that stupidness, If Mosley chooses to brawl, Floyd will see Mosley's wide swinging punches from a mile away, and what makes it worse is that Mosley yells when he punch, with Floyd ability to sense when punches are coming at him,will not get caught with anything he doesn't see, and if he does catch Floyd.

    Mosley power is way overrated, people seem to forget he was getting beat and couldn't knock out a out of shape, shot/No chin Vargas(1st fight) before the stoppage, he was not able to knock out or even down a slow chinny fighter in Miguel Cotto who put on a boxing clinic against Mosley, and it took a 12th round miracle to knock out an extremely fat and tired Mayorga who put on 20+ pounds after the weigh in, who he was clearly getting out boxed by despite and losing between 7-8 rounds despite what the scorecards said.

    Mosley is what he is, a B class fighter, he will wilt in the ring after he finds out he can't hit Floyd, and nose is get battered by jabs and straight rights,then he will mentally check out like he did gainst Forrest, Winky, and DeLa hoya(fight 2)people overrate him cause of the Margarito fight, when the truth is Marg was never that good, who did Marg beat, for his name to mentioned as an elite ww at that time, Clottley, not to mention Marg was fighting with bricks in his hands.

    I been a Mosley fan since day one, but I see no way he beats floyd, he only stand a punchers chance and the truth is Mosley hasn't been a puncher since was at 135, knocking out d class fighters.
     
  4. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spot on Man, Only thing I dont agree with is Mosley being a B class fighter, you sound like Floyd:lol: He is a future hall of famer but to be fair he isnt the guy he was years ago and stood a better shot then but as of today he gets thoroughly outboxed while trying his damndest to take his head off
     
  5. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The posts in this thread are outrageous and some are not possible to argue with so unreal are the words taken from it. It's quite obvious Floyd wants to capitalize with the fact that Shane is a different fighter when he's discouraged - he throws less, he doesn't focus on the target as much and he doesn't control the way the fight is going. Larry Merchant has said in the end of that first Winky Wright fight, "The War at 154" when Shane lost by UD ( twice 117-111, 116-112) that Shane has a high opinion of himself as a boxer and once he gets outhought or outclassed, he loses the fight from that point on. Shane can't respect this guy cause that's what the guy wants! He wants Shane to touch hands with him at the end of every round, make it an interesting night were both men cash in and play his game. Shane has superior flurry handspeed, much more strength in his body, much more power with his punches, a lot of class and know-how so he must not commit those mistakes - let him jab his way out of danger, drop that sneaky right hand from low positions, tag him with that check hook as he back pedalls...
     
  6. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    You're comparing Mayorga with Floyd?!?:patsch
     
  7. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    I think dynamic offenses can defeat Mayweathers' defense. That Michigan style of defense. Ray Leonard was able to get through it.

    Roy Jones was able to get through it with James Toney Michigan shoulder rolling defense.

    And I think Mosley can too. Unless he gets old in there. If you watch the sport we've seen it happen so dont give this BS on Mosley old crap. He is old . Especially for that weight.

    Whatever Naazim has planned out, is just more preparation for what Mayweather ; is capable of.

    If it works, it works... We have something new to talk about.
     
  8. TheGreat

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    The obvious gameplan is for Shane to impose his size, strength and power advantage over PBF, but to do it skillfully, not in a reckless manner. I highly doubt Shane is gonna try to outbox PBF, what he will do is skillfully force a dogfight.
     
  9. southpaw jab

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    My bad y'all, I posted in the wrong thread. Moving too quick, :(
     
  10. TheGreat

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    The best version of Mosley was the guy that jumped from LW to WW and beat a prime ODLH's ass 10 yrs ago, PBF would've have had a very hard time against that version of Mosley whether people want to admit it or not.
     
  11. TheGreat

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    The man is a 38 yr old WW, that is very old for any weight class but especially old for a WW.
     
  12. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what i'm trying to get at is everybody on here knew mosley's age, and they still wanted the fight saying floyd is scared, and that mosley would shup his ass. what's changed their opinion using the age as an excuse? easy, floyd accepted. like i said, some hate floyd so much they got to turn a positive reaction into a negative. sad.
     
  13. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    but you can compare castillo to shane saying shanes 10 times the fighter than castillo, but i'm not allowed to do the same saying floyd is ten times the fighter of mayorga?

    oh, i see, it only works for you. good one.:patsch
     
  14. Dorfmeister

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    70% of the game is mental or so they say. But I would add that Oscar did quite well until he winded up around mid-late stage. So what was there missing for Hoya? More flurry power, more speed with flurries and big punches. Still he had Mayweather on the ropes and backing up with pressure and effective aggressiveness. Mosley has what Hoya lacked at that point of his career and the motivation will come from Nazim of course. Floyd keeps on jabbing, moving and left hook leading and Shane makes him pay back eating some.
     
  15. Requiem4Hvywht

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    He shouldn't be looking to counter so much as he should be looking for opportunities to EXCHANGE!

    The lateral movement is not to merely set him up for counters.......it is really meant to TAKE AWAY Pot-Shotting, and any effectiveness of a jab PBF attempts to throw.

    Lateral movement by that I mean consistently stepping off to either side as you jab and feint or off your flurries will PROTECT you form counters, you from potshotting, and you from a jab.

    It will also throw off the rhythm of the counterpuncher.

    Get it.