can mosley do what naazim richardson wants him to do?

This is stupidity and ignorance at its finest. This is wrong on so many levels even if Shane loses this will continue to be wrong.

 

Yes he can! They make and excellent work together.

 

Interesting take. Respect to you for having 42,000 posts! I'm struggling to get to 1000.

 

I think you vastly misinterpret who these two fighters are. They are both boxer/punchers but Floyd is a much more defensively minded fighter. Shane has excellent Defense as well but as you go up in weight you have to exchange more to get a Bigger man's attention.

I implore you to review tape of Shane fighting men his own size. He was much more adapt at slipping punches and making people miss. As he's moved up in weight he's had to sit on his punches more.

Floyd OTOH is also sitting on his punches more. As a lightweight he boxed and moved and was VERY safety first because he didn't necessarily have to take punches. Against Chop Chop Corley he had to trade to get Corley's respect and got buzzed in the process.

It will be very difficult for Floyd to pot shot a guy like Mosley because of Mosley's handspeed. They are both counterpunchers by nature and that can lead to one of two things.

A very dull and sluggish fight with alot of feints.
Or one fighter understands he can't get off without getting countered so he decides to become the aggressor. With the speed of both men both guys WILL get HIT!!

There is no way Floyd will walk out of there coasting to a UD without engaging a trading shots with Shane. Any man that has defeated Shane has had to take shots from him and be able to withstand Shane's headshots and bodyshots. Floyd will be no different. As fast and as talented a defensive fighter as he is, he will not be able to just win this from the outside with potshots. Shanes hands are too fast and they both can box from the outside. He won't win a decision running.

This will be a FIGHT!

 

I agree. Ludicrous post! Laughable at best!!atsch

 

That's another problem with Floyd. I'll stand on my chair at work and tell you this is CLEARLY Floyd's toughest fight! He's never faced a boxer of Shane's ability and that's undeniable. Shane is a HOF'er and that's unquestioned. But at the end of the day he's still 38 years old and there is nothing we can do about that. Floyd admits as much when talking about the fight. That he can't win because if he beats Mosley then people will say, "Oh, Shane was 40 years old"! You're damn right people will say it because it's true! Shane isn't the same physically as he was 8-10 years ago and Floyd is catching him out of his prime. That's the price you pay when you fight for Strictly coin and not Legacy. Floyd has no one to blame but himself for that predicament.

He could have taken on more challenging fights when time was right. No one can accuse Mosley, De La Hoya, or Trinidad of that. This is Floyd's doing and he needs to defeat Mosley convincingly for people to really celebrate this victory. I'll be on here to give him props should he win and look impressive. But we all know whether your're a Floyd or Mosley fan that this fight shouldn't have taken 12 years to make.

 

Actually Mosley was calling for a PBF fight after he disposed of Vargas, When Mosley brought up the "tooth ache" he simply said he was done for that year BUT would be open to fighting anyone the following year. Honestly though ODLH is Main reason these 2 didn't fight earlier, each were just looking to fight him, which you can understand since Oscar was the biggest draw outside of Tyson.

 

You're exactly right! Both of these guys were pursuing the cash cow Oscar. They could have fought and HBO had the budget for it but in order to have a Shane/Floyd fight they would risk the chance to eventually face Oscar for huge jack. And I can tell you point blank that once Shane beat Oscar, Floyd was immediately able to come up and challenge him at Welter.

Shane wanted one showcase big money fight and wanted Gatti. HBO said F## No because that would've been a 2 round massacre. They adamantly stated they would NEVER put on a Shane/Gatti fight! Shane was given 3 title defenses before he fought Forrest. Forrest chased Shane around for a fight and Shane gave it to him. He showed up to his post fights and did the thing most fighters do while looking for a fight. Shane gave him that shot just like Oscar gave him one.

The unwillingness to fight a top opponent stems from the fact that HBO had contract fighters in the early 90's and 2000's almost like a promoter. They signed a fighter to a 3 to 5 fight contract so Fighter A has an assurance that he has at least a number of good paydays ahead of him. HBO has the budget for each fight and they give you a list of opponents you can choose from. Like anybody, you want to preserve your payday so you usually pick the easiest or most lucrative opponent.

HBO would've loved to put on a Floyd/Shane fight at welter once Shane beat Oscar and couldn't agree on $ for a rematch. Floyd wasn't interested in Shane and rightly so. He continued to fight at the lower weights awaiting his chance at Oscar. He didn't want Shane then.

Fast forward to 2003 when Shane beat Oscar again. HBO would've put Shane/Floyd on. Again, Floyd wasn't interested in dealing with Mosley he still had his sights set on Oscar. He knew that was the fight he needed to get his name out there.

I've been to some Floyd fights and let me tell you, Floyd couldn't sell out a High School Gym back then and really until recently. They'd HBO and Arum were all pissed because they'd invested SO much coin in this guy and he couldn't sell! I'm giving you facts not innuendo or Hate. They were disappointed in both Floyd and RJJ at that time because they simply weren't PPV attractions. Whether it's right or wrong HBO especially disliked Floyd because he wouldn't step on the gas and try and stop guys! He was fighting at Lightweight and Super Lightweight where he was normally the bigger stronger guy yet he wouldn't try and stop guys. This infuriated HBO to no end. Arum couldn't sell him and Floyd wasn't interested in taking a risky fight. He had a comfy HBO contract and he wasn't willing to risk a loss. The contracts are structured as such that once you lose your contract is void. That is gospel and don't let anyone tell you different.

 

wait....wait....wait.....You expect these guys to follow facts and logic? You are asking for way too much.

Cold26......those who actually know who I am know I am the original PBF fan. Why do I say that because back when PBF defeated Castillo I wrote a piece here called "Let Me Introduce You To the Lightweight Champ of the World".

And I talked about the "Slave Contract" issue, the "Arum and HBO" using the media to isolate PBF when he didn't comply with them, the building feud between PBF and Arum for him not having any PPV fights......etc.

Because back then this forum was strictly a Hamed, Barrera, Morales forum. None of these guys had any respect for PBF, or Marquez. The flavor of the day was those guys above I just mentioned.

And the PBF fans you see now are CASUAL FANS!


.............like I said a few months ago when I returned to ESB, "I am glad PBF now has fans, too bad they are stupid!" Because I remember when they wasn't up on it.........ah you know the lyric.

But it still doesn't change the fact that come May 2nd there are going to be a lot of surprised PBF CASUAL FANS.

 

nazim isn't gonna implement a plan that he knows mosley is not gonna be able to perform, he knows mosleys limitations and his gonna work with what mosley has.

 

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