Can Naoya Inoue surpass the achievements of Masahiko Harada?

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  1. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Inoue slaughtered 3 consecutive world class opponents in under a combined 4 rounds with one bout throwing a single feint and a single peach of a shot.

    No one ever mentions this absolutely insane fact. This is a greater feat than beating Jofre.
     
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  2. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Unlikely. You could argue that even an aged Donaire is as good a win for Inoue as say, Kingpetch was for Harada...But those two wins over Jofre make him hard to topple.
     
  3. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    What if Inoue beats Donaire, Casimero, Fulton, and Akhmadliev?
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That's a whole lot of "pretty good", but you need a metric ****-ton of "pretty good" to parallel "ATG".
     
  5. Zhuge Liang

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    Inoue is almost there. He is still young and currently in his prime years, but already facing shortage of opponents.

    He doesn't need to unify since the business of unification is complicated and many times political. There is only one opponent left that I expect him to face in bantamweight, which is, Casimero. After that, his job is finished there and should go up.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    FWIW, here is the BoxRec top-ten all-time as of now:

    1. Naoya Inoue
    2. Takashi Uchiyama
    3. Masahiko Harada
    4. Masao Ohba
    5. Shinsuke Yamanaka
    6. Toshiaki Nishioka
    7. Kuniaki Shibata
    8. Kazuto Ioka
    9. Hiroyuki Ebihara
    10. Hiroshi Kobayashi


    Guys like Jiro Watanabe and Hozumi Hasegawa on the bubble just missing out. Obviously a flawed list besides just jumping the gun on having the Monster as the archipelago's GOAT. As much as I loved God's Left, Speed King and The Tortoise, none of them should be over Ioka or arguably a couple of others listed. That isn't recency bias on the part of some BR editor though; that's all the product of their computerized points ranking system. Which would in theory mean that Inoue's résumé is his country's strongest ever already - but that is objectively false. Flawed system, which we have always known.
     
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  7. Young Terror

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    With years like this one he will not even come close.
     
  8. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    We noticed.
     
  9. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    This feels you're just using boxrec and not including the context of his career because you know very little about it. Why does ko% matter when talking about greatness? Do you not consider Kid Gavilan great because of his low ko%?
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Whether I consider Harada or Gavilan "great'' fighters or not is neither here nor there. I'm thinking of the bigger picture here and the future and survival of our species. We simply cannot allow our children to be raised in a culture that celebrates weakness over strength where hideous afflictions like below average punch resistance and power are lauded and glorified instead of being mocked and ridiculed as they obviously should be.

    You raise children in a culture like that and before you know it you have an entire generation of wimps who can't take a pop on the whiskers from a toddler or punch their way through cobwebs and I'm simply not going to allow that to happen to our youth and the sport I love.
     
  11. Drew101

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    The iteration of Fighting Harada that handed an all-universe flamethrower Jofre his only two professional losses was not lacking in punch resistance in any way. That iteration of Harada was more than a match for any puny manling you wish to champion...and had considerably better CCA to boot.

    I said what I said.
     
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  12. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    The opposition isn't really there at bantam, super bantam, or feather. He had a chance of building a legacy upon the bones of Estrada, Gonzalez, and Wangek but he grew out of that division. Donaire is a great scalp but he needs more and though Rigondeaux used to be stellar, he's much too old now to offer anything but a name to Inoue's ledger.
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Keep making excuses for fighters who get knocked out smack bang in the midst of their primes by noodle-armed featherfists with sub 30 KO percentages but don't come crying round here when Drew Jr. is getting mocked down at the gym by alphas with real man bods for working out with ladies weights

    Harada was actually knocked senseless and stopped twice in his prime by featherfists who couldn't wobble an old lady with their Sunday punch. The other puny weakling who stopped him sported a fearsome KO 40% :facepalm::risas3:

    Harada would have to score a solid 80% or above on the CCA Scale to rectify for his crimes against punch resistance
     
  14. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    The guy with the sub 30% ko rate would knock you out too.
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Not in this lifetime, pal

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    Savage punching KO artists much bigger than that leprechaun have tried

    And savage punching KO artists have failed