Can Pac beat all version Mayweather fought? Can Mayweather beat all Pac fought?

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  1. Raskolnikov

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    Because it's bollocks, presumably. Corrales was bigger than Marquez and Morales, but the sfw JMM and the '05 sfw Morales would have boxed the chops off of the always-overrated 'Chico'. If Casamayor can beat him over 3 fights, so can the superior Marquez and Morales. The two Mexicans are better than him h2h, p4p, and any other way you can think of to look at it. :good:good:good
     
  2. Gesta

    Gesta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    **** me, I don't know what to say.

    Floyd is a great fighter, but his resume is not that good, esp' north of LW. One of the best SFW.

    JMM was a good win?, it as clear as day that he would lose badly to Floyd at WW.

    These guys complain about the state of boxing these days, but they put up with Floyds (and others) cherry picking and stick up for them? , saying that their fighter would have betten all the guys that they duck anyway. Then they winge about the best not fighting the best and the constant ducking?
     
  3. NALLEGE

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    They are all about equal at 130... EM and JMM were greater below 130...
     
  4. Raskolnikov

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    Oscar pushed Floyd all the way by jabbing for 6 rounds, walking him back for 2/3 of the fight, and throwing little flurries all through. Oscar has top skills, but he didn't use them that night. Margarito is more than capable of implementing the same gameplan, but doing it even better, as he has an endurance level and an aggressive approach which that version of Oscar no longer had. I still think Floyd would win pretty comfortably because Margo doesn't have the defence of Oscar, but it'd be exciting, and there would be uncomfortable moments and bad rounds for Mayweather.
     
  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Morales & Marquez were above their best weights when they fought there, it was only their talent that enabled them to win titles there, Corrales & Hernandez were HUGE 130 lbers.
     
  6. Raskolnikov

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    And yet still not as good. At all. Marquez and Morales would both beat Corrales easily, and Pacquiao would have a much easier night vs Corrales than he had against Marquez or Morales.

    Pac vs Corrales = the Pac vs Oscar fight of '08, except at a lower weight.
     
  7. NALLEGE

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    It's ok for some to say the word "would've" when comparisons are made about other fighters and Floyd, but when Floyd's fans say "would've", they get **** for it...as another scenario win for a automatic fictional outcome where Floyd wins:lol:... There was nothing overrated about Chico. JMM beat a very old and close to shot Casamayor. Chico's career went in a different path than the two Mexicans that you call greater, but that doesn't mean that they could beat him at 130. Floyd would've beaten EM, Chico, JMM, MAB, Casamayor, and PAc all at 130...
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    being huge doesn't necessarily mean better. how many times marquez, pac and floyd had shown this? and morales and marquez shows that they are far better than corrales and hernandez by beating or having a close fight with pac. marquez even shows he can bring his skill up to 135 beating all the bigger lightweights.
     
  9. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Really ?.... what else could he have did that he didnt do ?... I thought he fought extremely well, it was a good competitive fight but one that was won by the better technique of Floyd.
    That version of DLH would beat Pac IMO & any version of Floyd beats any version of Pacquiao IMO also.
     
  10. NALLEGE

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    Marquez and Morales might've gotten the **** beaten out of them by Chico at 130. They couldn't box like Floyd. I would've loved to see Chico-Pac at 130... Floyd is the only fighter who had an easy time beating Chico, and maybe 147 lb Clottey. That would've been a war...
     
  11. bballchump11

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    Floyd also wouldn't have lost to Medgoen Singsurat, Rustico Torrecampoa and have draw with Agapito Sanche
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    if he was at those weights
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  12. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    PBF makes it look easy.
    Of course.
     
  13. Gesta

    Gesta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd WOULD have betten Morales
    Floyd WOULD have betten BAM
    Floyd WOULD have betten (prime) JMM
    Floyd WOULD have betten (prime) ODLH
    Floyd WOULD have betten (prime) SSM
    Floyd WOULD have betten Kostya
    Floyd WOULD have betten Cotto
    Floyd WOULD have betten Magacheato
     
  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Skills have overcome size on numerous occassions but on MOST occassions the size prevails, we`ll never know tho, it depends on the circumstances involved in each individual fight.
     
  15. NALLEGE

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    Kostya lol... He was never in the mix for a fight with Floyd.

    PAc would've beaten Torrecampo in a rematch.
    Pac would've beaten Singsurat in a rematch.
    Pac would've beaten a prime MAB.
    Pac would've beaten a prime EM
    PAc would've beaten Valero.
    Pac would've beaten Guzman.
    PAc would've beaten Shane Mosley.
    Pac would've beaten Cotto at 147 lbs.
    Pac will beat Margarito at 151 lbs and not 154 lbs.