Can Pac qualify in ATG list?

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  1. Benjiabc

    Benjiabc The Nottingham Hitman Full Member

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    of course, hes been in mine for a while
     
  2. dukestreet

    dukestreet prospect Full Member

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    he is an atg for sure
     
  3. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Name me the top 10 and I will compare Pac resume with them.
     
  4. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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    obviously an ATG. top 50 to 60
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Pac is on the list for sure. He is the #1 pound for pound person in the sport at this moment in time.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, he sure as **** makes my top 80 now, it's very hard to appraise a fighter who is still fighting, and it troubles me that i personally scored a draw and a loss versus Marquez, but he is an ATG for sure. And not done yet!
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Why would he even be above pretty boy at this time?
     
  8. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    SRR, oh wait let me guess he have more losses than pac, got beat by fighters with **** records. Has fought a number of cans uncomparable to mab, morales, jmm. And pac has lineal and is now in his 8th division, 3 lineals etc. etc. yeah right.
     
  9. berserkafied

    berserkafied Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, he'd be somwhere in my top 50
     
  10. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Go on then.

    1. Ray Robinson
    2. Harry Greb
    3. Henry Armstrong
    4. Sam Langford
    5. Muhammad Ali
    6. Ezzard Charles
    7. Mickey Walker
    8. Roberto Duran
    9. Benny Leonard
    10. Barney Ross
     
  11. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    PBF is top 30 for me already. Too much nostalgia bias towards older fighters. PBF is considered the best of his generation and Pac will follow.
     
  12. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Benny Lynch. Take away the old fighter nostalgia and lets go by facts here. Take away all the bums he fought with 0 wins and 1 loss records and hes only fought 14 fighters with decent records. Now tell me who are his best wins? Is it Kirby? Who has 37 losses...ok different era blah blah blah, fact remains is if 37 before have beaten this man, what makes you so special for beating him? Jackie Brown is decent but again, anothe rguy who lost 14 times before Lynch beats him. When Morales looses to Raheem beforehand people use that against Pac as someone already beat him, why cant it be said for older fighters? This guy stayed in flyweight all his career, Pac soared from flyweight to LW and dominated throughout. This guy lost 12 times fighting only 14 opponents with decent records. He lost 6 times to fighters with 0-0-0 record or thereabouts after so many fights, can you imagine what would happen if Pac were to loose to a fighter with that record now?

    There is no comparison. He is considered the best fighter Scotland has ever produced. Pac is in contention for the best fighter Asia has ever produced!
     
  13. Sweet Pea

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    Boxrec records are quite flawed, the majority of the names with 0-0-0 records are false, and have simply to do with lack of information on Boxrec's part. Same thing with a guy like Jimmy Wilde and his resume. He fought for titles with guys who on Boxrec are said to have 0-0-0 records, when in reality they were known fighters in their times with over 40 fights.

    But point taken. Pacquiao rates above Benny Lynch. I'd agree as well to be honest, he was just a name I decided to throw out.
     
  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Looking good. I can't see Ali above Walker and Charles, but it's a nice ten. WHere the **** is Whitaker though?
     
  15. McGrain

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    I have Floyd at #39, though it irks me cos I don't like him.

    Don't see what nostalgia has to do with the issue, care to enlighten me?