Can Pacquiao become a top 15 ATG?

but what if he takes floyd (wins) and retires after beating bradley (**** berto)

 

With a - key word - convincing win over PBF, top 15 for Pac isn't out of the realm of possibility.

 

then he would have answered all the questions I had about him and I can put him in the top 15 for sure

 

:thumbsup

 

Yes he is. I've been in the boxing business for quite some time now, and a lot of what the 46 year old Bernard Hopkins has shown lately is not quite possible without some aiding of PEDS. This should open the minds of a lot of posters here. Hopkins went toe to toe with not just a man in his prime, but a hungry and motivated boxing contender in his prime. Things like this one should only have one explanation.

Look at Amir Khan's chin. Suddenly it becomes granite from glass in less than two years? Oh yeah sure, because of teaming up with the Pacquia0-steroid master chef Alex Ariza, right? It sure is the only plausible and scientific explanation. Hopkins once trained with Roach and Ariza.

Floyd has been correct all along, that's why boxing purists respect him so much. He has seen the future with these shenanigans and is doing his best to correct it for the sake of our sport. Unless we don't have Olympic Style Random Drug Tests, then we have reasons to doubt. FACT.

Don't worry,it's my personal opinion and I'l agree to disagree and so forth.:good

 

no, it's very interesting perspective. i'd never heard such suggestions about hopkins but it's something to think about. it's why i love the forum

 

Floyd is between Duran and Hearns/Hagler ... maybe not h2h with all of them but in therms of ATG status.

 

No disrespect to Manny Pacquiao but he isn't a top 15 atg. I don't even see how he is in the top 20. Before Floyd retired, no one said Manny was an atg now in only 2 years he is a top 10-20 atg. He is in the 30-50 range imo. Yes he moved up alot of weight but Roy Jones also moved up the same amount of weight as Manny. The difference is the weight classes. Also I have never heard of a top 15 atg never cleaning out a division. He is a great fighter but he is rated way to high. Think about out of that list resume to resume does he have a better resume than either of these guys? Marciano is overrated imo.

 

Especially if he beats both Mosley and Maweather the division will be pretty empty.

 

That's a big IF.

The question is why does he keep on dodging Mayweather? He has a pretty decent shot at it being an exceptional lefty. Fact. :good

 

beat mayweather at 147 top 15 atg

beat martinez at 154.. top 10

 

Uh huh - With no bias at all.

If pac beat Mosley, Mayweather and Martinez as a career cherry on the cake you would have to make a case for him being a lock top 20 ATG fighter.

That's one helluva IF.