Can Pacquiao Inside Fight?

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  1. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    To make it an inside fight, you have to get in range. You have to get inside and it's not easy.

    Pac has some of the best foot movement when going backwards in boxing. Watch what happened when Margarito hurt him with the body shot and see how fast he gets away from danger.
     
  2. Boxed Ears

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    I wouldn't say he's totally inept inside or outside, but the only place he shines is mid-range, where almost all of his most potent arsenal seems to come out. He loses his specialness elsewhere. It's his feet that enable him to always shoot in and out of his best range and tee off instantly, and get out immediately. He hasn't really been able to move that well in the past year or two. He has a young man's style and he isn't young anymore.
     
  3. Ali_

    Ali_ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Manny has no inside game whatsoever. He never has.
    He bounces in at you, bounces out from you, steps to left giving you the sneaky right and tosses both fist back at you at his new angle. His guard isn't that good either. None of that matters though because its not like he gets hit by much of anyone besides JMM.
     
  4. Gander Tasco

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    He doesn't like to hang in there too long, but he can fight on the inside.
     
  5. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    That's not really the inside; they aren't body to body.
     
  6. MetalLicker

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    I don't know why people want him to fight inside and give up his advantages. Fighting inside is NOT necessary for Pac.

    Inside fighting is for people who can't move very fast. Guys like Corrales, Margarito and Rios are inside fighters because they have lousy footwork and they can impose their physical strength.

    A guy like Pac doesn't need it because he move in and out of range very quickly. It's like asking a point guard to post up. It's not necessary. Fighters fight to their strengths, not to their weaknesses.
     
  7. thawk888

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    Don't try to explain. He's completely inept.
     
  8. Gander Tasco

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    If that's not inside, what is it? :huh I agree that Pac is not a good inside fighter, but he can certainly do some damage there - especially when he's using his feet and turning his man.
     
  9. Bogotazo

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    That right there was mid-range. Inside is body to body, shoulder to shoulder, sometimes even in a half or full clinch, requiring a shortening up of the punches. In that clip, Manny can still extend as he normally is, and is only touching Cotto with his gloves as he lands. Neither can manipulate the other's body weight or balance or positioning through the shoving physicality of inside fighting.
     
  10. Gander Tasco

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    :huh I'm specifically reffering to the mid part of the gif. They're definitely close enough to be considered 'inside' there, but it's kinda splitting hairs anyway. I don't think you need to be touching shoulders to be inside. If Cotto was on the ropes this would be a lot more clear. There are other examples in the fight as well. The point is Pacquiao can be effective there, but I'd agree when he's laying in there, shoulder to shoulder, he isn't very effective.
     
  11. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Watch Pac-Margarito.

    Everytime Margarito corners Pac or pushes him to the ropes, Pac will either purely bob and weave and then immediately turn and get out, or he will step back a bit to create some distance then fire away.

    So no, I don't think he got an inside game.

    He used to throw some nice uppercuts while in clinch or tangled up waaay back tho.
    I can distinctly remember Pac throwing a double uppercut when Pac and I think Larios got tangled up.
    I don't see that anymore.
     
  12. Doc

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    Both are **** inside fightets but can throw at close range, they just launch themselves from mid and trow combos.. but stand there and actually inside fight No way. Both aren't like that. You cain't gonna see a cotto mayweather perforance here with bradley pushing PAC back and cornering him this is gonna be a Mid range war.
     
  13. Vidic

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    That wasn't an example of inside fighting, Cotto squared up under withering punches and Pac was still throwing his usual combo's

    He wasn't having to shorten his punches or outmuscle Cotto, aside from Cotto's own body position, there was nothing different to Pac's usual style

    When Cotto got close, Pac did what he usually does when someone gets inside on him, use clever, quick footwork to get out of the way and maintain distance

    He doesn't really have an inside game so to speak of
     
  14. JohnAnthony

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    Manny is ok on the inside. He doesnt use any of the slick tricks like a mayweather or Toney. But went he off loads he's normaly the one that lands and gets his opponent backtracking.

    Marquez got the better of most the inside work against Pac, But Marquez is World class on the inside.
     
  15. Gander Tasco

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    Watch it more carefully, he did have to shorten his punches (short uppercuts), and you can clearly see him pushing off cotto with his forearm/ shoulder. You don't have to be hugged up shoulder to shoulder to be 'inside.' There are other examples in that fight as well of Pacquiao landing up close. Like I said, he can be very effective delievering shots on the inside while maneuvering / turning his man. If he stays in the pocket he isn't too effective.