Can Paul Williams bring popularity back to American Boxing?

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  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The question is asked, it's simple. A few thought though.

    I was VERY impressed with Williams, and I admit I underestimated the guy bigtime, probably because of the Quintana fight, where he was punished for his mistakes. But he made the necessary adjustments, and it seems the higher weight division he fights at, the better he looks. Saturday's performance vs. Winky Wright was much more impressive than the fight he put on vs. Margarito.

    With Hopkins being close to finally retire, it's pretty clear to me that Paul Williams is the best fighter the US boxing scene has to offer today, and I see years of strong performances in him, although he needs a very good team to be able to get the most significant fights he deserves. Imagine this: cause of his amazing physical abilities to go up and down in weight, guys are on the table from PacMan, Hatton, Cotto, Mosley and Mayweather to Pavlik, Abraham, Kessler, Bute, Taylor and maybe Hopkins and Jones, from 147 to 168. He's a special fighter and not only because of his size and style, but because as avoided as he is, there are 4 divisions to look opponents for.

    But unlike the way someone like Gamboa was built up, which is QUALITY promotion, Williams lacks the popularity his status in US boxing deserves (like Pavlikesque following). He's probably the best American boxer out there, but the crowd was still behind Winky, not an exciting fighter, and not really popular, and quite interestingly they didn't cheer Paul so much when the fight was over, or when the results were announced, which was weird. I think the promotion behind him, not to build up his career as a fighter, but to build up his POPULARITY, to put more and more asses in arenas failed bigtime which will make him find top opponents pretty difficult. Nothing is over yet, but when Pavlik came out vs. Pantera, he was already very popular, and Williams is still far from that.

    So you have this amazing athlete who could be the top fighter of boxing at some point, and probably already the top US boxer with many options. He's also young, exciting and simply fun to watch. But can he bring popularity back to American boxing?
     
  2. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He didn't make no adjustments.
    He gets systematically hit with hooks every fight he has.His footwork is bad altough he does have good legs,he only used them last night in one round(7) but he is a good fighter who will very hard find a match at 147 and 154.
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I have no idea as to why Paul isn;t more popular in the US. He has a crowd pleasing style and will take on all comers. He should be drawing atleast 10,000 every time out.
     
  4. Superfuzz

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    I will tell you why he isn't as popular, he slaps and taps his opponents to victores. Who likes that?

    All the people on this forum who criticized Calzaghe for pitty patting opponents on his way to victories not giving him respect, they are now hypocrites for now praising and following Paul Williams then. You can't have it both ways. Either you give Calzaghe his just credit, or get off those nuts of Paul Williams.

    Calzaghe demolished Lacy and Roy Jones's faces, and he is called pitty pat pillow puncher. And yet Williams just reddens Winky's face, and he is called a "beast" and "punisher"? You guys give all of us american fans a bad name and reputation with your hipocracy. Slap your wife's butt hundred times, and it will get red. That's what Williams did to Winky last night. Slapped him red.

    I am not getting excited over a slapper.
     
  5. Vengeance

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    Quintana got slapped real hard in their rematch then. First round slap KO. Let's see Joe do that. :good
     
  6. w3rdup!

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    Slapper like Joe? I dont think so... just lookin at Joe's last 6 fights he's gone the distance 5 outta 6. PW has gone the distance 3 out of 6. PW looks like a bigger puncher then Joe does.
     
  7. Superfuzz

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    But, look at Joe's caliber of opponents compared to PW's in that span. Joe has been fighting ATGs! And look at the faces of the opponents after the matches are done. Which inflicted more damage on the face? Look at Kessler, RJJ, and Lacy. Bhop walked to the wrong corner after a round. Or did he just have amnesia for a second?

    I think before you guys start salivating over Williams, you should start giving non american fighters some respect too.

    I never said Williams doesn't have power, but the way he fights turns me off. Williams has power, no doubt (if he wanted to), but I think he starts to gets too much into the volume game of punches to sway judges, rather than the big power punches, that he could do and win over fans like me.
     
  8. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think any kind of Calzaghe-Williams comparation is stupid (they threw a lot of punches from many angles but similarities end here), and this topic is about Williams and whether he can bring mainstream popularity to boxing in the US.

    So please comment on that! :thumbsup
     
  9. Uncle Oden

    Uncle Oden Respect Guzman banned

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    I think the reason is that it takes time. Especially if you aren't an Olympian. DLH, Jones, Mayweather. All Olympians. Took Hopkins forever and he while he was a big name, never that big star. Personality plays a big part.
     
  10. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    No. One boxer can't bring the sport back to mainstream. Look at the popularity of boxing in the USA in the mid 70's thru the mid 80's, and then look at the fighters who were active for all or part of those years. We'd need a dozen or more elite, popular guys, and we do not have anything close to that.
     
  11. Arriba

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    Absolutely not.

    There's no one fighter who can do it...it's going to take a big group of great fighters to do it and Williams isn't him.

    Take a look at it like this: Against Quintana, he was bood'. Against Winky, boo'd. Nobody cheered enough during Williams/Phillips or Williams/Kolle for me to get a real tell...the PROBLEM is that Goosen packages him with Chris Arreola. Arreola whose flabbingly stealing his thunder repeatedly. The fact that they didn't go more than 2 rows deep when they panned the crowd shows that it probably wasn't a big draw either.
     
  12. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i personally think because he was written off for long..... nobody believed this guy and then when he beat margarito everyone tried to dismiss it as fluke-ish

    then he goes up against cq and takes a loss so everyone was convinced it was a fluke

    then he comes back and beats cq quick and everyone claims it was lucky

    then he beats a 20-1 guy nobody heard of (andy kolle) so he beat a random journey man

    the he beat a savvy veteran who's allegedly washedup (verno)

    now he finally got in the ring with a guy who people some what believe would beat him and he put on a show... and put on a show in a fashion that STOLE YOUR ATTENTION and FORCED YOU TO BELIEVE IN HIM.... so i believe from now on... paul will have more of a following
     
  13. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Which he did.

    Which he did.

    No he didn't.

    He'll get a following for a few reasons but he'll never be a star for a billion other reasons.
     
  14. link2296

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    When he decides to clean out one division by truly beating the elite of that division, I think he will be recognized as a genuinely great boxing draw. People will not be able to ignore his accomplishments.

    Or, if he fights and beats name fighters like, Pavlik, Cotto, Mosley, or Abraham he will become that marquee fighter that you seek.
     
  15. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Paul Williams' biggest reasons he won't be a draw are of things he can't control which is sad.

    He's from a town not exactly known for great boxing champions or amazingly passionate fanbases. He hasn't been able to beat a top named fighter and steal his fanbase. He has a wimpy kinda voice that comes off as weak and when he complains, it doesn't sound tough or macho like it would if a different fighter did.

    None of those things people think about but effect him.