Can People Seriously Get The 'P4P' Meaning Right!

Holy ****, so many of you have no ****ing clue what P4P is in regards to.

It has nothing to do with weight class limits or restrictions. It has to do with the talent of the boxer compared to other fighters regardless of their weights.

Here is the best example:

Yuriorkis Gamboa is the best featherweight.
Wlad Klitschko is the best heavyweight.
P4P Yuriorkis Gamboa is more talented than the best heavyweight, so he ranks higher on a P4P scale, but clearly he couldn't go to HW and beat Wlad.

If Wlad was more talented as a HW than Gamboa as a FW, then Wlad would rank higher P4P.

It's completely skill/talent based.

 

Most fighters skillsets are based on their physical attributes. Some to do with their size. Some to do with their speed. Some to do with their stamina or endurance or punch resistance. No reason you can't judge all of them in the same way.

 

How many people would actually qualify for P4P if that was the criteria? Mayweather, Pacquaio, Jones.....ermmmm?

 

But weight is supposed to be removed as a factor when discussing P4P, that's the whole point of P4P - it's not the same as speed at all.

 

Totally wrong p4p was created to give fighters below heavyweight credit. Most traditionalists never list a heavyweight on their list.

 

You were talking about height mainly, not weight. Out of Vitali's last eight opponents, the only one he substantially outweighed was Gomez.

 

I always thought it meant regardless of weightclass which fighter is cleary the best.

 

Agree

 

What about Wlad?

Gomez was the only one with any skills as well, but was completely out of his depth in terms of size.

I can't repeat it enough - size is supposed to be a non factor in P4P, which is why you can't judge HW's against guys that have to make weight. Wlad and Vitali couldn't fight the way they do currently in the mythical world of P4P, so how can you accurately judge their skills?

 

Here are some others.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72645

 

p4p is too a penny theese days :deal

someone wins a round and there next p4p :roll:

 

Weight is supposed to be a non-factor, so you may need to take that more into account when dealing with heavyweights. Height helps define how a fighter fights.