Can someone explain Al Haymon to me?

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  1. jbuffett84

    jbuffett84 Active Member Full Member

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    Al Haymon has a lot of money and wants to turn boxing into the UFC. Haymon was created by Kery Davis and Ross Greenburg at HBO during the 2000's. He had lots of influence with that television network, and was able to get his fighters large purses at the expense of television networks. Part of the issue is that he had fighters, such as Andre Berto, who couldn't draw flies but nevertheless were paid top dollar for non-competitive fights. His arrangement with Mayweather gave him leverage over HBO to pay for other fights that few people other than Haymon wanted to see.

    It appears as if Haymon's stable has doubled over the last year. He's gone from signing top-notch talent to taking in guys like Vazquez, Truax. and Dawson that aren't even that marketable. He will try to form his own league where you have to be signed with Haymon in order to participate. It might produce some decent fights along the way (i.e. Garcia/Matthysse), but we'll be stuck with more garbage than good.

    Haymon is someone that, if the U.S. government cared about boxing, could be shut down under the Muhammad Ali Act. A lot of people are skeptical because of the cult-like way his fighters speak of his management. Even before thanking a deity or family member, fighters pledge their loyalty to Mr. Haymon. It's almost as if they're speaking off a script.

    He adds to a lot of the suspicion by the fact that he rarely is seen or heard from in the press. He leaves the public face to his henchmen, long-time friend Sam Watson and his two sons. Recently, Haymon is under scrutiny for allegedly teaming with former Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer to force Oscar out of GBP while he was at his lowest point in drug rehab.
     
  2. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    this is all bull****. you sound like a toprank shill. stop.
     
  3. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    BS alert.

    Post full of factoids, conjecture, talent envy and just plain stupidity.
    This verbiage perfectly compliments the Klitscho's robot style.
     
  4. Boxing Truth

    Boxing Truth Active Member banned Full Member

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    All 3 (Arum, King & Haymon) of them are bad in different ways.

    Oscar too, is bad for boxing.

    But Don King gets credit for making the best PPV's in the history of boxing.
     
  5. Boxing Truth

    Boxing Truth Active Member banned Full Member

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    King did his time in prison for that.
     
  6. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I get this.
    Sometimes you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.:lol:
     
  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What's funny is, in 1979, a former music promoter who staged concerts for some of the biggest R&B acts in the U.S. decided to get into boxing through his relationship with former heavyweight champion Muhammad Ali.

    He succeeded in signing quite a few major boxing stars, acting as a promoter for stars such as Thomas Hearns, Aaron Pryor, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Jim Watt, and ranked heavyweight contenders like Scott LeDoux and Marty Monroe. With the lightweight, junior welterweight, welterweight and light heavyweight champs under his umbrella, he was quickly becoming one of the most powerful men in the sport.

    He was able to sign them all by offering huge cash bonuses just for agreeing to work with him.

    Most of the shows he staged lost money, and nobody could believe how he could get away paying all these guys huge money for shows that didn't make a profit.

    Finally, in 1981, he announced he was going to promote the "This Is It" card featuring some of the biggest fights that could be made in boxing. It was going to be a closed circuit show. Just days before the event, however, it was discovered he'd stolen $21 million from Wells Fargo Bank with the help of bank employees who were able to shuffle money from one account to another to hide the theft.

    Had the boxing event been held, the plan was to replace all the money before it was noticed. And no one would've been the wiser.

    That guy's name was Harold Smith/AKA Ross Fields. He was a tall guy with a beard who always wore dark glasses and a cowboy hat. He's been out of jail for quite some time. He had his promoter and manager licenses taken away.

    Sometimes I think Al Haymon is the same guy, that's why he doesn't go on TV and doesn't "officially" promoter or manage, and he's doing all the same things, he's just able to replenish the money he's stealing every time Mayweather fights ... because none of his other shows make squat. But as soon as Mayweather is gone, he'll get caught again.

    Or he's just mirroring everything Fields did.
     
  8. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember that guy!

    It was the cowboy hat and dark sunglasses that make him memorable.

    LOL, I didn't know the full story of how he raised the funds or how he got caught.

    To be honest I'm not mad at the guy for ripping off Wells fargo. America's ultra rich are filled with similar stories, except they didn't get caught or when they did didn't get penalized.
    Check out the story of the Bush family and their Grandfather Prescott Bush. He made his millions when he was a US Senator as well as working for the bank that financed Hitler's Nazi Army.
    They found him guilty of the Trading with the enemy violation but that didn't stop his son George Bush, Sr. or Grandson George Bush Jr. from becoming President of the United States.

    LOL..So you think Haymon is the same guy with a name change?
    If so, he must be another Charles Taylor and working for the CIA.
     
  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's probably not the same, but he sure patterned his career just like him - he just keeps a low profile, whereas Smith liked to be interviewed a lot.
     
  10. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    yeah he got chad dawson 15 grand in his last fight
     
  11. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not bad pay for what was no more than a confidence building tune up, and we don't know all the details of the deal. Dawson's full expenses may have been paid and he may have ended up taking that entire $15K home for a few minutes work. Plus he added another KO to his record.
    His next fight will see him earning more, which is fair.
     
  12. Winger

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    He is a guy who will do anything for money and pays transvestites to have *** with him. That's what we officially know.

    Anyone who pretends they know exactly what his job is and which contracts his name is on is just guessing. He probably does a little of everything and his main selling point is having connections/contracts with enough other major figures in boxing to function as the mediator who makes the fights (most of which are shitty one-sided showcases).
     
  13. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seriously, do you believe that? Real question.