Can someone explain how A sample and B sample works

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  1. Blg Man

    Blg Man New Member Full Member

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    According to Carl Frampton, you **** into a beaker and then the urine gets poured into two seperate bottles, Sample A and Sample B, same urine but different container okay…

    According to Eddie Hearn the B sample has not been tested yet and says its because of a timing issue

    So what I dont understand is how come one sample is tested but the other is not? I thought they got sample A & B at the same time? And my other question what’s the point of a B sample if its the same urine as sample A?

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  2. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Frampton is correct. Testing the B sample is basically just done to confirm the test results of the A sample. I’ve never heard of the results being different. If they were different, it would likely mean that one sample had been tampered with in some way.
     
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  3. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    More chance of me shagging Katy Perry than the B sample being different from the A sample
     
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  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    No reason as to why they haven't completed the B sample results yet

    Takes about 5 seconds, they hand it over to Marquez who swirls the urine in his mouth then says the result.
     
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  5. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    It takes like 5-10 minutes to test it, but I think Hearn is saying they don’t have time to complete the testing before the fight.
     
  6. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I think the boxer has to request the B-sample is tested and have a set period of time in which to make the request - not sure how long but long enough to delay the process so they can fight in the meantime if the failed test is fairly close to the fight date...
     
  7. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    If you fail the A-sample you can talk endlessly about the B-sample and how there is a "process" and "hearings" and "technicalities" and hope that maybe eventually people will lose interest and forget about the failed A-sample.
     
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  8. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    Did anyone ever see Dillians B sample? Lost in the post, I presume.
     
  9. Tazz

    Tazz Member Full Member

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    The main reason for storing the B Sample is because once the A Sample bottle has been unsealed, it's exposed to potential contamination. It will be used for testing at that moment, and then the remainder will be disposed of. Any adverse findings will be reported and then a process will be followed. If an athlete appeals the findings, and request the B Sample to be tested, it will be based on the belief that the sample was either contaminated after unsealing, tested incorrectly or equipment may have been contaminated at the time of testing.

    In that case, the Sample B will be testing in front of representatives of the athlete who are present to ensure that the proper procedures are followed, the equipment is suitable etc... If the B Sample results come to the same conclusion, then it proves the original results to be correct. If the B Sample results are different, then the athlete would be cleared.

    The other, just as important reason for storing the B sample, is for analysing at a later date when detection methods have improved. An athlete might be using an "undetectable" PED now, that could be detected in the future.

    Edit: Also, it's not a quick process necessarily to test the B Sample. It would take time for an athlete to find people with the required expertise to witness the testing processes. It would also take time to fit the testing of the B sample in the testing schedule of the lab. There are only 30 WADA Accredited labs in total. The testing also takes time due to the sheer amount of substances/metabolites being tested for.
     
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  10. sniffmybadger

    sniffmybadger Relationships are not my forte Full Member

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    probably getting some monk to **** the B-sample out right now