Can someone explain this fascination with “daring to be great”?

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  1. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have heard that the last week or so also to explain Canelo's loss to Bivol. It makes sense, but all greats do that. All fighters dare to be great even if they stay at one weight. Hagler dared to be great, and Canelo had easier touches than Marvin did.
     
  2. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a good thing, the opposite of protecting your zero.
     
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  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    It's a common phrase in boxing and has been since time begun.
     
  4. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not saying you’re wrong but I think you’re misunderstanding the point here. All of a sudden, it’s being used heavily for one particular fighter. As if nobody else is moving up in weight or winning titles in higher classes.
     
  5. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    It's not new. I like to watch fights. Pitched battles where both men give everything they have, find out it's not enough but don't give up and reach down and find a little something extra that even they didn't know they had. It's like some virtuoso motivated to perform at an heroic level. It's inspiring when it happens. To reach that peak performance in boxing you gotta risk getting your ass beat which makes it even more compelling and admirable. Are you not excited by Spartans at Thermoplylae or the English fleet vs the Spanish Armada or the 101st Airborne at Bastogne?
     
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  6. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    The growth of meaningless buzz phrases of boxing is probably somewhat linked to the growth of social media and 'citizen journalism' (ie: a bloke or big titted bird with a camera phone on YouTube) and an era in which trained legacy media reporters no longer have the time to craft stories in the cauldron of 24-hour, on-the-fly perma-breaking news. Add to that, Twitter is now the go-to source of content (let's see what Canelo or Hearn has to say about the fight; click on their Twitter profile, quote what you find) and everything becomes SEO-fuelled sound bites repeated ad nauseum.

    The result? A pandemic of poor prose in which everyone just repeats the same things someone else has already said...
     
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  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Just another buzz phrase.
    It isn't as bad as the 'winning the event' thing from a decade ago imo. That was so cringeworthy.
     
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  8. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    It's been around since I been around. It's a function of the more people hate you the more you do the more abstract the concepts they need to use to explain why they hate you and justify it. Like these dudes out there sweatin' that.
     
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  9. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    But you have been around since the beginning of time. Far before the dawn of men, and even further before they developed the ability to speak.
    Which means, that you must be the one that came up with it. It's your fault Boxed!
     
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  10. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I’m here on the ground with my nose in it since the whole thing began. I’ve nurtured every sensation man has been inspired to have. I cared about what he wanted and I never judged him. Why? Because I never rejected him, in spite of all his imperfections! I’m a fan of man! I’m a humanist. Maybe the last humanist, Robney.
     
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    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  12. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Golovkin is absolutely bigger than Kell Brook lol
     
  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Yeah Shakur Stevenson did just move up in weight and fight the top two ranked opponents, but he's not the only one in history to do so. Agreed.
     
  14. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Man get off the gas you and everybody knows that for damn near the last decade 75% of these boxers haven’t been doing squat. Look at 175 with Beterbiev, bivol, & Kovalev never fighting look at 135 with Haney, Ryan, Tank and them look at 147 with Spence and Crawford and how long it took to actually make fights, look at heavyweight and the Aj Wilder Fury saga, 160 GGG, Andrade, Jermall, most these guys out here stalling out fights baby sitting in divisions Canelo get praise and got fans because he one of the few guys who not
     
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  15. kiwi_boxer

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    Amazing how brave you can be when you have predetermined scorecards. I'd be comfortable too if I only needed to win 2/12 rounds to win a world title fight.
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