Can someone explain to me how Wlad has a better resume than Wilder

Valuev was a fight that didn't happen though Wladimir did beat the 2 fighters who beat valuev

 

Don't exaggerate.

You can't compare Tyson's win over Wlad, to McBride's win over Mike.

That's silly.

 

****ing hell. Imagine having to re-watcg klits entire career. **** me I'd rather shoot myself in the face

 

I didn't know he hadn't married Hayden. Wlad's mental state was definitely not good for the timing of this fight. That's why trainers keep women away from boxers...it's not the legs that suffer, it's the unstable mental state that women create on men!

 

Yeah perfectly put...imagine if you knew he was gonna be the champ again for the next 10 years!!! It would be the end of boxing...no joke.

 

Safin,

I agree entirely.

Vitali was much more formidable.

If he hadn't have had 4 years out due to injury, he'd have had a much better resume and Wlad wouldn't have had the reign that he had.

Wlad's got the deeper resume, but I rank Vitali higher on a H2H basis.

I agree. Joshua would have been written off. But Wlad came back from those losses and beat some good fighters.

I'm not sure where I'd rank him. But if he'd have possessed Vitali's chin and mental strength, he'd have been pretty much unstoppable.

 

I can't remember why they never fought.

Can you remember what the circumstances were?

 

You're joking right? Wilder fought exactly TWO contenders before being exposed by Fury, and those two - Stiverne and Ortiz - were carefully selected because of their age and illness. HIs resume is among the worst ever for HW beltholders.

Wlad Klitschko, on the other hand, fought a who's who of the contenders in his era over a decade. There is NO comparison here.

 

Ye he beat Byrd & Peter twice which alone craps all over Wilders entire resume.. heck , even guys like McCline (at the time Wlad fought them) were better than most of Wilders opposition..

Ortiz is decent but he's never won a major title. He's old too.. Stiverne I never rated much ..

 

I don't know how you can say this and then argue that Wlad's girlfriend being postpartum so bad she had to go to clinic had no bearing on his performance

I can. It wasn't that Fury frustrated Klitschko so much that he couldn't throw, it's that he was afraid to throw. He didn't even throw anything when he had Fury in a corner, which is where Wilder had him when he knocked Fury down the first time. He was more motivated, more confident against Joshua so he was willing to engage more.

I think it was Don King being Don King and holding the belt hostage

 

Naked Snake,

I genuinely believe that he wasn't thinking about his partner when Tyson was feinting him in the ring.

He just wasn't used to fighting a man of that size, who possessed that level of confidence and movement.

How many times have you seen Wlad lose his temper?

How many times have you seen him shave his hair?

Tyson's unpredictable nature and huge self confidence made Wlad extremely uncomfortable, to the point where he did uncharacteristic things.

He didn't know how to react to Tyson in the build up to the fight.

In the ring, he'd fought in a certain way for such a long time, he couldn't adapt.

He just kept doing the same thing over and over, where he only showed any aggression right at the very end of the fight.

Now I'm a logical thinking man. And I can accept that his partner could have been on his mind an awful lot during that time. But again, she wasn't the reason that he was unable to let his hands go in the centre of the ring. That was Tyson's doing.

He had nothing to lose and everything to gain against Anthony Joshua. And Joshua didn't have Tyson's movement. It was just a completely different stylistic match up, against a completely different fighter.

Possibly.

There was no duck though and it wouldn't have enhanced his resume in any way.

 

Of course.

 

Not off the top of my head. I think they were with different promoters.
I think it would have been of real interest as Wladimir or Vitali would not have been the bigger heavier fighters or able to lay on Valuev and Valuev wasnt as slow as some would have you believe