Can someone explain to me the definition of 'ducking' within boxing.

I'm just reading through some quotes from Joshua, Hearn, Wilder and his team.

Wilder, the challenger, has claimed that he wants a "50/50" split.
Wilder, the challenger, has claimed that he wants home advantage, at the "home of boxing".
Wilder's team, representing the challenger, have told the media they have received "no contact" from Hearn and are "Waiting for an offer".

So the question is -

1 -The champion (Joshua) wanting a larger split of the pot....
2 -The champion (Joshua) wanting home advantage....
3 -The champion (Joshua) being asked to make an offer....

Is that uncommon?

Did, for instance, Canelo get any of the above from Mayweather?

 

these two fighting each other is more important than the belts involved. and even though I agree that AJ deserves to be labelled the more legit champion by virtue of the fact that he fought and beat wlad, and wilder didn't, the fact remains that these are the only two fighters who most believe can rule the roost, and any belts they currently have will always seem incomplete without each other's scalp tacked on the end of them.
the Floyd - canelo situation was completely different.
Floyd was the P4P king, and by virtue of him bringing a golden goose payday to anyone he fought, he couldn't be dictated to by anyone or any of the federations (since his status in boxing transcended the watered-down belts)

 

Wilder has been ducking all the legit fighters, he only fights winos from the alley! Wilder is the biggest ducker of them all!

 

Wilders call out is pretty stupid to be honest but it has gained hype. They both had mando's and the fight hasn't hardly been mentioned except for the fact everyone knows it will happen within the next 18 months.. I really get the feeling wilder wants joshua while he still has a few flaws. Joshua will still beat him now though, wilders too open, has a 30lb weight disadvantage and doesn't hold any of his huge advantages over joshua.. height and reach.

 

Kind of the same thing though right? Joshua is the 'PPV king' in the uk and sells out 80k arenas... wilder makes small money in the US and joshuas profile isn't great in america, it wouldn't even do that well on PPV in the states so joshua holds the cards here.

 

You're confused. Joshua isn't the HVW champion of the world. And until you realize that your trash post makes no sense.

And don't worry about Wilders comments. He's doing the talking but Finkel will get him a fair deal.

 

What's Wilder supposed to do, scream 80/20 in Joshua's favor and I get the fight? Lmao.

 

Joshua deserves the bigger split, and the fight should happen in the UK. But, he's not the champion, and Wilder is not the challenger. They're titlists, and so is Parker. Those 3 need to fight each other to determine the champion.

 

Well if you're a Wilder fan a "duck" nowadays is not getting a serious response to a Twitter or YouTube channel call out, there does not even have to be a genuine offer, that's all you have to do.

Now if we look at two things..

Whyte (with Hearn and Sky) made a genuine career high payday offer to Wilder and he refused it, priced himself out by wanting 7 million but according to Wilder fans that isn't a duck.

And then he fights Stiverne and next it looks like Breazeale but that's fine according to the Wilder fanboys.

But Wilder shouts his mouth off, contradicts himself about travelling and then insisting it has to be in the US, saying he wants a 50/50 split although he brings virtually nothing to the table and makes all sorts of claims and demands without any serious offer being made to Joshua and because Joshua didn't accept all demands, requests and roll over immediately that's a "duck".


What I've concluded from the last week or two is the double standards on here are actually quite funny and some people are just bias, blinkered and clueless.

They forget what they said for example about Canelo Vs Golovkin and Mayweather Vs Pacquiao negotiations and deals, they have very short memories and make up the standard to suit their opinions.

 

Double standards again from yourself.

If Wilder can demand "50/50" and "Home advantage" then Joshua has every right to demand 80/20.


What would be 'Fair'?

Pay Wilder his career high pay day + 10% + travel costs?

 

Don't worry about what Wilder says about 50/50. Forget that he even said that lmao. He's the fighter, Finkel and Hearn will work something lol. I can tell you this doe. Joshua won't get 80/20 in the U.K. either. You have no idea how fights are negotiated. All factors are considered. Fights are negotiated. You're scared lmao.

 

I haven't said Joshua gets 80/20....i haven't even stated what Joshua deserves.

It's the Wilder fanbase and camp that clearly have no idea how negotiations work, hence they never make any $$$.

 

Lmao. This is what you get for listening to Joshua's fans lmao. Hearn and Finkel will do the math. Joshua can become bigger than life if he beats Wilder here. But you, you're scared lol...

 

It's amusing how Wilder fans actually believe Joshua needs Wilder.....

 

Its just getting worse and worse by the minute now, lmao.