Can Someone Please Explain To Me How Mayweather Is At Fault Here?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by walk with me, Dec 25, 2009.


  1. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Why though? Ahh.
     
  2. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Void does not want to fight Pac. Right after Pac knocked Hatton out in the 2nd round Roach tried to get Void to fight Pac, but Void refused, so Pac fought Cotto, another fighter Void refused to fight. Void now makes up some new rules for Pac to follow for their fight in Void's home town. Pac agreed to take a blood test right after the fight and a urine test as well. Whatever, Pac does not need to fight Void, Pac is #1, not Void. Pac can fight one more or several more fights without fighting Void, he does not need Void. Void appears to be very spoiled, he seems to always get his way. Pac is the star, not Void. Void is void.
     
  3. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    :lol:

    Fair, he brought up a lightweight to welter for a catch-weight fight to only f#ck him the night before the weigh in.

    Fair Floyd. :lol:
     
  4. supercali

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    Pac to my knowledge did NOT say no to all of the demands, it's just the part where the usada cannot guarantee that it won't test Pac the day of the fight itself because of it being random. That is the point of contention. Pbf camp insists on it but Pac camp says no, it may happen and they don't want to take that risk (of them being randomly tested on fight night). I'm not sure if BOTH fighters will be tested on the same day on all of their tests, but I assume since Pac camp is against it, each fighter is tested independently of dates. That means on the final test before the fight, pbf might be tested a week before and manny a day before, who knows...even if it's the other way around, still there's a chance that Pac may be tested on fight night or couple of days before.

    But still the premise of this whole thing is, by demanding pac to undergo testing outside of boxing implies that the mayweathers are already accusing him of cheating. These are serious accusations no matter how you look at it, and based on what exactly?
     
  5. duneford

    duneford Active Member Full Member

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    excuses....excuses....that's his fault......and he's a *****!!!!
     
  6. liger05

    liger05 puroresu fan 4 life!! Full Member

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    Its a joke that Mayweather even has to request olympic style testing. That kinda of testing should be standard procedure.
     
  7. theHawtness

    theHawtness Active Member Full Member

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    this! :deal
     
  8. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The problem is not the olympic style drug testing in itself. The thing is that by asking for such tests, Mayweather is implying that he suspects Pacquiao to be on roids. That is an insult in itself. Why hasn't lil Floyd asked this kind of testing from Marquez, who gained a lot of muscle too? Or from Hatton, who balloons up in weight and then miraculously gets down to 140lbs again?
    In fact, the Mayweathers are not only subtly implying that Pacquiao is on roids. Floyd Sr. stated publicly that he thinks that Pac is on roids, even before the fight got signed in the first place. That's a very serious accusation - you question the other mans legacy and accomplishments by it. And without any proof, it's just a very wrong and sneaky thing to do.

    Now maybe the Mayweathers really think that Pacquiao is on roids. Or maybe they're just spreading rumours in order to try to downgrade Floyds biggest rival, and to gain some sort of psychological edge. I don't know.

    But at the end of the day, Pacquiao is in a position where he doesn't have to play these games anymore. If the Mayweathers spread rumours about him, he doesn't even have to go out of his way to prove them wrong. It doesn't work like that. Mayweather needs Pac more than Pac needs Mayweather. Pac can go on fighting another fighter like Mosley or Malignaggi, while Floyd can go on and fight Matthew Hatton in the UK - they'll both get their paychecks, but history won't be kind on Floyd, believe me that.
     
  9. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    thats my point

    so even if he does believe that.... wouldnt the best way to prove your not on roids is to take a test?
     
  10. Morrissey

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    That accusation has also lead GBP to threaten Pac that he won't be able to fight GBP's fighters in the future unless he submits to that kind of drug test.

    See how this malicious rumor works?
     
  11. FROST

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    he doesn't have to prove it in the first place as the accusations are totally baseless. He doesn't have to play Floyds game here. Fact is, Pac doesn't need Floyd as much as Floyd needs Pac at this point. So when the Mayweathers try to play their games with Pac, he can just turn his back on them - while it's clear that Floyd would be Pacs biggest fight out there, he also has other options. As for Floyd, he can go fight Matthew Hatton instead. Pacs pride has been hurt, and this is the best and classiest way to tell the Mayweathers to just **** off.

    Besides, it's not like Pac hasn't been tested for roids during the last years. And he passed those tests. If olympic style drug testing is getting introduced, then do it for all pro boxers out there, and not just for someone you claim is on roids.

    I don't know if you box or practice some other sport, but if one of your opponents would claim that you're on roids, whitout any reason, and requires you to take some tests, you would just tell him to **** off, right? I bet you wouldn't do what he's asking for. You wouldn't play his game, right? I wouldn't.
     
  12. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    so your trying to tell me there you are 100% sure with out a shadow of a doubt that pacman is NOT ON STEROIDS!


    if we were talkinga bout pauli malignaggi or some **** i would agree with you my man.... but to say manny is totally innocent you either have to be really naive or a big pacman fan.... either way i personally don't believe he roided or ever did.... but if a test came back and the results were positive.... i wouldnt be the least bit surprised either...

    think about the guys in the history of boxing who have made a jump like that...i mean that high in weight

    roy jones & james toney


    they both used peds..... now i'm not saying pacman did roids.... but if some info leaked and a report came out that he did use roids... i would not be surprised at all
     
  13. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather is at fault because he is the disliked BLACK man. It's as simple as that. You see how America treated great black champions. Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Ali.
     
  14. AFBlues

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    No matter how much you spin this, people will have their own opinion on this issue but majority of the people out there believe that Mayweather is at fault. If they want Olympic style drug testing they need to have all boxers tested across the board not just for one fight. GBP wants Pac to take a blood test but they refuse to have Mosely do a blood test. If the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight doesn't go through, will PBF require a blood test from his next opponent? He will probably go with the current drug testing policy that is already in place.
     
  15. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I never claimed that I was 100% sure that Pac isn't on roids. I only stated that he never tested positive for roids, so as far as I'm concerned he's clean. And I'm not 100% sure about any other fighter not being on roids. Can you be 100% sure that Floyd Mayweather never took any roids? I mean he moved up a lot in weight himself. What about Paul Williams? Can you be sure?

    I'm not a *******, and I'm not naive either. A lot of pro boxers do use roids. But if you're gonna accuse somebody, you gotta have proof. You can't just say 'you're on roids, now do these tests and prove me wrong. And if you don't, you gotta be hiding something'. It just doesn't work like that.

    Pac is getting tested for roids just the same way as all the other pro boxers are. These tests may not be perfect, but if the Mayweathers want to fight roid use in the sport, they should ask for olympic style testing to get introduced for all the pro boxers, or at least for all of Floyds opponents. They don't do that however - they only aim at Pac. Their demands concerning Pac are a farce - they're just a sneaky way to hurt their biggest rivals reputation. And they even succeeded with it, at least somewhat (even if Floyd has hurt himself more than Pac with this move), but I've seen through it, and you should too.

    That's what I wanted to say. Read my posts again.

    That's all I gotta say about this, I'm out.