Can Somoene Explain This To Me?

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  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Fighters always try for every advantage & coming in as the bigger guy is as good as any advantage so I think it will keep happening.

    I too have always felt that you should fight at your natural weight, there is no pressure mentally or physically to make weight, all you have to do is train for the fight... it would only work if everyone did it so unfortunately it wont happen.
     
  2. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I like this idea.

    At least it would cut out one of the most common excuses for losing... well, it would help tho probably not cut it out.
     
  3. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    It works both ways though...sometimes putting on to much weight in between the weigh in and fight time works against you...The reason for the weigh in is to make the required weight by rule without using performance enhancers...Alot of fighters walk around 25 lbs heavier than what they fight at...Hatton walks around at 180 and fights at 140...he has to lose 40lbs to get to his weight...this hurts him more than it helps him...and hatton has no business (as we've seen from Floyd and Collazo fights) fighting at 147.
     
  4. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd weighed in at 150 I seriously doubt he lost 2 pounds overnight and I dont recall Oscars ringnight weight ever being mentioned in any fight besides the Pacquiao fight. It is unfair thats why there are weight classes and not everyone is Mayweather go look at Gamache-Gatti. Ive fought in the ams to and ill agree adding weight can hurt you if you arent doing it correctly I hear that but most of these guys not all but most have good trainers and health coaches and make sure they do things a proper way.
     
  5. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This pretty much sums it up.

    Given that fighters will drain to the lowest possible regardless of when the weigh in takes place, having it the day before is a safety measure. Weight draining increases the chance of brain injury due to dehydration. However the nature of a boxer is that they will take this chance to give them every advantage. Therefore having weigh ins the previous day negates this risk.

    Like it or lump it. It's a safety issue and it is likely to stay around.
     
  6. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    One of the belts (can't remember which one) requires a second weigh-in on the day of the fight, and it can't be more than 10 pounds more than the original weight.
     
  7. thesham01

    thesham01 Undisputed Champion Full Member

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    well thats hattons fault, i`m just talking about using size as a 'skill', get rid of it and we will see the most skillful fighters winning more often, based on skill rather than being 20lbs bigger!

    also hatton comes in at 155 odd during fights, and if the rule i want comes in that would see him either stick to 140 and possibly be less effective at that weight, or go up to 154 and get hammered!but then again the rest of the boxers would be the same, so i actually believe it would even out!
     
  8. standing 8

    standing 8 Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed, they should bring back same day weigh-ins. If fighters can't make the weight on fight night they shouldn't be fighting in that division.
     
  9. unsentdemon

    unsentdemon Active Member Full Member

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    I've always had a problem with this, I mean if you have to kill yourself to weigh 147, you're obviously not a welterweight, they should make same day weigh-ins.
     
  10. FanManII

    FanManII Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This didn't make any sense at all.
     
  11. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How so?
     
  13. owell

    owell Active Member Full Member

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    With all the arguments on board per se, seems that the governing bodies for this sports had/has condoned the rationale for cheating. In implementing a rule to thwart any serious physical injuries as a result of one boxer's desire to gain an undue advantage over another by dehydrating and rehydrating, they had now made a mockery of the sense of 'fairplay' to which this sport was originally started. To continue this practice is surely unfair to the earlier boxers who had fought on even grounds in the past.

    We should not therefore compare boxers in this era in boxing of pre-fight night weigh-in to previous era of same night weigh-in in terms of ATG as those fighters had accomplished their goals on different circumstances.
     
  14. treva1977

    treva1977 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    thats just part of boxing and always will be.;)