Can the Benavidaz-Herrera decision be justified?

He could have landed a 1000 slaps for all i care, i still would have given it to Benavidez because his punches were more telling and powerful.

The fact that their landed punches total was so close together tellls you that Benavidez won this fight based on his more eye catching punches being scored more then Herrera's pitty patty ones.

If judges start giving decisions to guys like Herrera, the sport of Boxing will be officially DEAD.

It'll mean that every boxer will think all they have to do to get a decision is throw a 1000 pitty patty arm punches and the judges will give the the decision based on volume rather then what a punch should be i.e power, accuracy and timing.

Don't listen to the idiots calling this robbery.

The fact that all three judges had it 116-112 and 117-113 tells you that they were scoring the fight on clean effective punching rather then volume slapping punches.

There's definately corruption and bad judging in the sport of boxing, last night was actually what good judging should be about, which is following the rules of BOXING and not being swayed by volume. Just because some fools online and in the Boxing Press scored it to Herrera means nothing as most of them don't have a clue how to score a fight to begin with.

 

How does watching it live change the appearance of Benavidez standing immobile on the ropes covering up for extended periods while Herrera bangs away at him?

That doesn't look any different live. It looks the same.

 

i had benevidiaz 7-5. I expected a split decision victory, but wow the wide UD was complete "tihsllub"

 

Herrera got robbed! The 3 judges I suspect are the same 3 guys that worked Algieris corner when he fought Pac!:nut

 

If the slap punches of Herrera should not count, then how did Joe Calzaghe slap his way to victory against Bernard Hopkins?

 

So Herrera needs to act like the challenger even when he's the champ? Seems grossly unfair.

The guy has had the deck stacked against him from the outset.

 

116-112 Benavidez.

 

Herrera landed more solid punches, and was clearly the ring general almost the whole fight.

Anyone who wants to even try and justify this robbery therefore needs to demonstrate how and where Herrera was hurt by punches since people who are defending this robbery seem to be doing so on the basis of Benavidez's nonexistant power.

 

I'll have to watch it all the way thru and paying close attention

Oddly enough I did score for Garcia, my score is in the scorecards thread in the classic

I mostly gave Garcia rounds where he was outlanded because I put more weight on his shots

Though I do understand the reasoning behind a Herrera card I think it's a fight I could score different ways different times

I'll give this fight a real viewing to score

 

OK, here we go, people keep mentioning Calzaghe Hopkins so I wondered what the punch stats looked like on there. Lo and behold, it shows absolute domination in stats across the board for Calzaghe unlike Herrera. Calzaghe outlands 232-127, jabs 45-11 and power 187-116. Compare that to the Herrera margins whom you're comparing relative punching power to and you'll see it's shameful to compare. Herrera did win the stats across the board but nearly with the kind of numbers needed for his very low power shots to make a robbery case.

Final 285-250, jabs 118-94 and power 167-156. Do the math on those margins and you'll see that Calzaghe was at a whole different level better than his opponent, than Herrera was with his, and Calzghe's opponent was an ATG. You could even look up the round by round on the Herrera fight and see where the cases could be made for Benavidez. From the fourth til the end of the fight Benavidez was not outlanded by more than four punches and that only happened in two rounds, three punches in one, two in another, and the rest were either even or Benavidez landed more. Remember, Benavidez's punches land harder.

 

Look at the fight again. Herrera does this thing that does a great job at hiding when he's hurt, he attacks. Right when I was thinking he was gonna take a break from hard shot landed is the moment I see Herrera going on the attack. He does this to throw his opponents off but if I can pick up on it, and the HBO crew can pick up on it (yes, they say that in there) then the judges can pick up on it. It's the job of judging not to be fooled by fighters hiding when they felt a shot.

 

Compubox style stats are picked from thin air. Trusting them is like belief Santa is real

 

You got proof it's picked from thin air?

 

Watch round and compare number you get to number they get. Angulo vs Kirkland round 1 is good start point.

 

No, I can be generous but I still had Herrera winning at least 3 rounds.