Can the Calzaghe arguing - Peak Tyson v Peak Lewis H2H - every1 must have an opinion!

Watch Tyson vs Biggs to see how Tyson fares against a tall, quick HW with lateral movement and a snapping jab. Those who claim this type of style was poison for Tyson just haven't properly analyzed the majority of his fights. Lewis didn't actually fit that mold, it would be his strength on the inside that troubled Tyson. Aside from that, his boxing ability wouldn't do the trick.

 

Because of what actually took place in both of their careers LL should rate much higher on any kind of 'ATG' or 'P4P', etc... list than 'Iron Mike'.

Having said that, it's my opinion that had Tyson been able to maintain the urgent ferocity of attack he displayed in the first round throughout the contest he would have beat Lewis by KO in the later rounds.

If that's my premise, then the question becomes; 'did a prime Tyson have the stamina and will to continue to charge in throwing shots with KO on em' relentlessly over 10-12 rounds despite being smothered and lain on by a much bigger man?'. I want to say yes...but probably not.

If Lennox Lewis shows up in shape from camp with Emanuel Stewart as his strategist, he defeats Mike Tyson/Cus d' Amato 7 out of ten times.

 

Lewis by ko

He isn't going to bully lennox and lennox won't **** himself like many of the as i like to call em (fall over guys) stewart etc....

Beaten before they even got in the ring

One thing we can do is take commen opponents into the equation i.e
holyfield, tucker, bruno, ruddock, golota, botha and biggs.

Lewis did better in all the match up's with the exception of bruno and that is fact. Now tyson gets a lot of sympathy votes i.e he was past it after 1990, but he wasn't past it when he went life and death with ruddock at all. Then 17 months later apparently people will have you belive that ruddock was shotatsch when he fought Lewis but he had, had 2 fights since the tyson fight koing page and then koing and handing phil jackson his first loss not to bad hey:good then lewis blitzed him 2:deal

Im not in any way saying tyson wasn't great when i was a kid in the 80's he was a phenom, but against Lewis he dosen't stack up. Would of been a great fight and Tyson has a punchers chance, but Lewis is to focused against a danger man and wins late.

 

Lewis more powerful? I'll take Tyson thank you.

And Tyson simply had off the chart hand speed, foot speed, athleticism AND power for a HW. When you combine all of that, you have a monster. Not to mention, the mental advantage he had over opponents. When he was always moving and using his head movement, he was almost unstoppable. He did become a head hunter it seems as his career wore on which was a mistake. But PRIME Tyson, the one who used his incredible talents the right way puts Lewis to sleep.

 

How many of those fights were in Tyson's PRIME? :hi:

 

Lewis by late stoppage.

I've always had questions over Tysons mental foritude and I believe although this was never truely tested in his prime, I believe the manner in which he unravelled against Holyfield and subsequently Lewis suggests that he wasn't nearly as effective a fighter when he wasn't getting his own way....

He would not have it all his own way against Lennox Lewis. I think even the head bobbing and weaving Tyson of those fights would struggle to get past the awesome jab of Lewis and that he would eat a few huge uppercuts during the course of the fight....I think that Tyson would eventually get discouraged as we have seen before and begin to get battered down the stretch leading to a late stoppage.

I know his supporters will come in and say that 'Tony Tucker stunned him and then he came out and whooped him' or 'he showed mental fortitude pre-prison by taking a pounding by Buster Douglas'...with all due respect to Tony Tucker, he lacked the necessary ability to continually pose problems to Tyson, certainly not in the manner that Lennox Lewis would. In regards to the Douglas fight, gamely marching forward wouldn't get it done versus Lewis either. I just think that Tyson could be discouraged and thus unravel...nobody really did this to him in his prime because he never faced anyone capable of posing him enough problems to prompt him to panic....

I love Mike, he's my favourite fighter of all time but I believe Lewis takes this one.

 

Biggs used his legs & jabbed for all of one round.

 

Thread closed :deal

 

I think it's better to look at what type of fighters both guys struggled against...we seen James Tillis ask questions of Tyson and Buster Douglas beat him well....guys who jabbed and moved against him and both lacking the weapons that a Lennox Lewis had....

Then again, one might argue that Tyson disposed of Larry Holmes pretty brutally(an underrated win in my opinion even if it was a past prime Holmes) and of course, naysayers will always questions the chin of Lennox Lewis on account of those 2 one punch KOs....if they could do it why not Tyson?

Tough match up for sure.

 

The beating Tyson put on him played no role, obviously.

You're mistaken in your recollection of the fight anyway. Biggs was using the jab throughout, though his movement declined after a few rounds due to the punishment he was taking.

 

Yeah.....

But one could argue that he should have been allowed to continue against McCall, and that Rahman was just lucky.