Can the top Light-heavyweights beat the top heavyweights if the bout was with olympic rules?

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  1. Bolopunch11

    Bolopunch11 New Member Full Member

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    I know the existence of the weight classes by obious reasons but I think that in a 3 rounds olympic bouts the more tecnical and faster light-heavyweights and of course many cruiserweights will outpoint the top heavyweights. For example, Bivol, Beterbiev or in his days André Ward could outpoint Joshua, Wilder or Fury during three rounds.
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Stranger things have happened than Wilder losing two of three rounds.
     
  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes Bivol/Beterbiev would out point Wilder under Olympic rules.
     
  4. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    Beterbiev is just a puncher, his speed could help him v AJ but AJ`s reach would be too much.
     
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    Usyk and Fury are more skilled than the best LHW fighters so they've extremely small chances there.

    But after those two, would it even be an upset if Bivol beat AJ, Wilder, Zhang or Joyce? Beterbiev might have a harder time due to his fighting style, but Bivol could probably beat them in an actual title fight let alone an Olympic one.
     
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  6. Mark Anthony

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    No, Bivol`s 72 inch reach is way too short.
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

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    Bivol is leagues more skilled than Fury.
     
  8. Bolopunch11

    Bolopunch11 New Member Full Member

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    Clemente Russo is very similar in reach and outboxed easily Wilder in the Olympics.

    Beterviev, in amateurs was a very good boxer and compared to HW is faster. Usyk is tecnically a freak and also a small HW, in his amateur days competed in the same division as beterbiev and fought each other 3 times (2-1 to Usyk).
     
  9. cuchulain

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    ????

    Are you serious, Luf ?
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    I dunno man
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    Yeah, it wouldn't be an upset if Bivol beat any of those imo.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    Skills pay the bills.
     
  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    The man can make 168 if needed
    His walk around weight is 185.

    I wouldn't;'t give him much hope against ANY of the four you mentioned.

    Way too small...

    If Joe Smith can ring his bell, you can imagine what even a partial shot landing from one of those behemoths would do.


    And it would DEFINITELY be an upset if Bivol were to defeat AJ.

    Bivol is a lot smaller than Usyk, who had his hands full with AJ.
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    For a decade or so we were told that there was a new SHW era and anyone else was too small to do anything.

    Usyk and a few others have proven if you're good enough you can overcome the size difference.

    Bivol for me is good enough. He'd school the 4 I mentioned.
     
  15. cuchulain

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    Bivol is more skilled than three of the four you mentioned and marginally better than AJ.

    But the slight advantage he holds over AJ in skill terms is more than offset by the huge difference in size… at least sixty pounds, six inches in height and ten inches in reach.

    Bivol is very much smaller than Usyk and is not any more skilled.

    The second AJ - Usyk fight was fairly close, all Usyk could handle.

    Add to this, the AJ since Andy has been a bit nervous about engaging.

    He wouldn’t be the least bit worried about what Bivol might land

    Conversely, AJ’s jans would feel like power shots to Bivol.

    This wouldn’t last ver long.

    Good as Bivol is, I wouldn’t give more than a 5% chance against the bigger man.

    And four of those % would be based on AJ having a heart attack or stroke.