Can Usyk last 4 round with peak Fury?

How does Fury handle Usyk's exaggerated 800 punches per fight stat?

I'll tell you.

700 actual thrown "punches" broken down into:

300 of them feints
200 off gloves or not landing
150 fly swats
50 actual decent punches that Fury eats up for breakfast

Then we account for how many he will actually throw against Fury, I'd assume somewhere in the region of 350 which is 50 a round before Fury stops him in round 7.

The man threw 14 feints in the first 10 seconds of round 1 against the bodybuilder. Fury will ignore every single one of them.

He can throw feints against the lump who tried to box him and failed. Not Fury.

 

it is very very unlikely peak Fury (Wilder 2) will appear again

 

Can Fury last 4 rounds with peak Preem?

 

No because he isn't going to get motivated for Usyk the way he was for Wilder 2. That was killer Fury.

 

Not quite, IMO.

Stamina?
edge to Usyk

Power?
Very slight edge to Fury

Jab?
About equal

Ring IQ?
Edge to Usyk

Reach?
Clear edge to Fury

Size?
Clear edge to Fury

Speed and head movement?
Slight edge to Usyk

I have Fury as a slight favourite, mostly on account of the size difference.
Usyk will be a handful for the big man.

And where did you get the idea that Usyk doesn't want Fury in December ?
He has said Fury is the only fight he wants.

 

Erm, considering a clueless glass-chinned dosser like Windmills lasted seven I'd give iron-jawed ATG CW Usyk more than a fighting chance not just to last the distance but to win.

What's so special about that version of Fury anyway? He just decided to go on the offence and actually utilise his massive height and weight to bully Wilder around the ring while abandoning all his fleet-footedness, herky jerky head movement and combinations. It wasn't a better version of Fury, just a different one.

The best version ever was the one that fought Wlad and Hammer.

 

The one who fought Wlad & Hammer let them off the hook by not utilising his stamina & size to make them gas out and fall over. Overly defensive. Fury with his size and stamina should always be engaged not giving an opponent a second to breathe. Despite the front foot pressure Fury was still defensively sound with some supreme subtle footwork for a big man unlike the 3rd bout where he bowled forward.

Whyte Fury was a little defensive only because Whyte's only shot was a hayemaker and Fury knew he'd be finished in 6 rounds no matter how he fights.

Fury is now a pressure fighter and rightly so. He could try and keep it long with Usyk and win rounds but why give Usyk room to breathe? especially if he feels the need to get the stoppage later down the line.

In theory and by most people's eye they feel Usyk is slippy and good enough to get past Fury's reach to win rounds so we should expect Kronk Fury to show up not the Wlad jib jabber.

 

Fury’s size and engine will determine the outcome of the fight. P4P Usyk may be better but it’s a HW fight and Fury uses his size well. I see Usyk sweeping the early rounds, Fury beginning to wear him down in the middle rounds and stopping him late

 

What is peak Fury? Wilder 2 fight?

I would say absolutely, but who knows, who cares? That Fury only existed for a night and is not coming back.

 

As to stamina the real deal is not Fury v Usyk but Usyk v Joyce.

However...sorry for Furys fans but Usyk will school Fury and will retire him...definitely...imho. Fury was a fine champion but his time's passed with Big Dosser III, he can talk how much he wants and say bunches of BS but the truth is he will get a severe beating by the "Juiced Middleweight". Not soon of course, in 2023.

PS: you can call Wilder "Big Dosser", you can call Joshua "Bodybuilder" but you cant call a masterclass boxer P4P number one "Juiced Middleweight". Who does he think to scare in this way? Usyk? Lol.

 

"Very slight edge" to Fury on power?

Bit more than that I think.

Also you need a category for

"Can drape self like a lead-weighted overcoat over his opponent and sap his strength?"

Clear edge (real clear) to Fury there. Emanuel Steward never trained Fury but he will be smiling down from heaven on the Gypsy King when this fight happens.

Usyk is an immensely skilled boxer with wonderful balance, speed, stamina, and timing. And he's got that Johnny Ruiz-esque talent of being stronger than his punching power suggests - but there's a big difference between a 6' 6" fighter who doesn't really know how to use his size and a 6' 9" fighter who obviously does.

 

Like I said, on account of the significant size difference, I slightly favour Fury.

But Usyk is a very live underdog, and it shouldn't be a shock if he eeks out a decision.

 

Fury on his best day, aka vs Klitschko was looking more tired, and he actually was than Wladimir in the 12 round, and this was Klitschko who had off night, and throw just above 200 punches in the whole 12 rounds, and land a total of 50 punches(a bit more). Klitschko in his prime was landing around that margin for a round, for a example.
Fury threw 371 punches and landed just 86 punches according to compubox.
This is prime Fury, against 3 months out of his 40th birthday Klitschko.

Usyk will throw at the very least 700 punches, would put Fury in insane amount of pressure both defensively and offensively. Will make him work harder than he ever work, and Fury will be gas out in the 9th round. Fury face will also look like a hot tomato pizza all over.

AJ was actually busting his **** in the gym for 1 year, while Usyk was at WAR, and had 4 months to train fully and gain the weight he had lost.
AJ was a hard-preped machine.

Fury is a lazy fat a***.
AJ had a high guard and tight defense, and a very fast hands and world class explosiveness to his punches, that makes him a deadly counter puncher machine.
Fury had none of that. With his low hand guard, he will be a mess by the end of the 9th round.
And then i will laugh hard at Fury incredible stamina. It's incredible against bum dosser that throw 5 punches per round, and don't know what pressure mean.

Usyk has made a career of beating bigger than him guys, he is famous for that. He literally toy with every giant he faces in his career, either amateur level, WSB level or PRO level.
Fury on the other hand never ever faced a guy with such cardio and such an incredible huge work rate.


Also Fury from Klitschko fight is all gone. His feet are not as fast, neither are his hands. When Usyk toys with him and stop him, then people will start appreciate AJ and understand how good he really is. Eh, and Usyk is just different league.

 

Depends on the peak Fury, we talking about the one that was KD'd vs old CW Cunningham, the one that pulled a Vitali vs. Wallin or the one getting KD's vs. crude natural CW Wilder?

 

I think both has the stamina to fight on high pace for 12 rounds. Fury has more power. has a better jab. Both are equally intelligent. Reach and size - that's clear. Maybe Usyk is a bit faster, can't tell for sure because no matter how fast Fury is, he'll always look slower due to his size. I'd add one thing: style and here Fury is just better, can offer different things, while Uysk is the perfect southpaw, but nothing more than that, while this in itself is rare. Ok, we count the number of punches one throws, but this means that Usyk is more active, fair, but can also mean he's very inaccurate. Number of punches is related to the style, to the current fight itself. Defensive fighters don't throw a lot of punches usually, but that doesn't mean they're not effective, right?