Can we all just admit Keith Thurman...

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  1. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    You confuse the truth with hate, my child.

    I feel no emotion towards Crawford, this is nothing cold hard analysis which i present and we know Crawford kicked up a big fuss concerning fighting Pacquaio, yet he is completely relaxed about not fighting any of the top welters who are younger and in their prime.

    If I'm mistaken, feel free to correct me and show me something with Crawford outlining his intentions to fight either Spence, Thurman or Brook in his next fight.
     
  2. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spence vs Thurman is a great fight which I will
    Attend if it happens
     
  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Spence fought Brook who was bigger than him and is twice the fighter of those pathetic d level fighters you mentioned.

    I've just seen an interview with Crawford and he says he will leave it in the hands of his manager who he will fight and says if the money doesn't make sense then the fights with the big dogs in 147 won't happen.

    So expect more ducking and diving from your hero. It's clear from his answers and body langauge that he wants nothing to do with Spence...absolutely nothing!. Listen to the excuses Crawford comes out with when the idea of fighting Spence is proposed to him?

    ''It Could be''

    ''It's up to my manager''

    'I'm not a promoter, I'm not a manager or advisor (sic) I'm just a fighter''

    Does that sound like man who is hungry to get in the ring with the best or someone relying on an alibi to bail them out of getting in the ring with the ''big dogs''?

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  4. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thurman got hurt. When you get an injury that requires surgery, it's only natural to think retirement. He may not be the same.

    It's a tough break. Ward also retired recently. I bet injuries played a major part in his decision.
     
  5. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Injuries wasn't apart of Ward's decision. Only a few months prior to his announcement he was declaring that he was in the best ever shape in his entire career.

    He wisely didn't want to throw the dice one more time when they're are so many superior Lions in both the supermiddleweight/LH and cruiserweight division where he could not afford to depend on judges and refs to help him preserve the 0 on his record.
     
  6. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    Thurman is good , he can box and brawl , but he's more interested in the trees than he is about winning titles. Its a shame these guys can take such long lay offs while still holding a belt. Spence as well. If they can't defend it every 6 months or less it should be taken off them.
     
  7. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Wrong. I've said Spence might have problems making weight in the future, that it was a serious issue for Brook, Canelo, the Charlos, Jacobs and a host of others.

    It's something that's a real problem but it's so hard to combat it as people are willing to put their health at risk for such an advantage.
     
  8. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Its a common "boxing" injury, as in it happen more frequently in boxing than in other sports.

    Check these Pics out orbital bone injuries, and compare to Brook
    http://delivery.gettyimages.com/xr/...D012937F2F0BA2BEF154274E59C7BE30A760B0D811297
    https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/angulo-eye.jpg
    https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/1usp_boxing__miura_vs_vargas_77742548.jpg?w=1000&h=666
    http://images.complex.com/complex/i...q_auto/c_limit,w_680/gu5gmmvfzahuxf5y0dfo.jpg
    http://www.mightyfighter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/wolak-eye-2.jpg

    and then there is Brook, who quit after suffering such a gruesome eye injury
    http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8811395.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Gennady-Golovkin-v-Kell-Brook.jpg
    LOL
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    He's got a far better resume than Spence and a resume that equals Bud's it could be argued its superior, the man is coming off of a bad injury, there's nothing wrong with someone taking a tune up to get the kinks worked out, and make sure nothing goes awry before eventually getting to those two.

    Not sure when Porter and Garcia were considered easy fights, IIRC, ESB was split down the middle as to who would win, they were two of those 50/50 fights we were talking about the other day. Far more 50/50 than anything Crawford has been a part of.

    You admit you never liked him? That wouldn't have anything to do with him not being hood and unlikable thuggish a-hole enough for you would it? He's a nice tree hugging, peace loving hippie who doesn't act like your standard stereotypical piece of ****, like Danny Garcia does, or at the very least tries his best to imitate, his Dad's the real deal, a genuine thug piece of ****. That's a pretty repellant reason to not like a guy if you ask me.

    As far as getting slightly "exposed" every time he steps in the ring with someone he's supposed to look good against.... Did Mayweather get exposed in losing 5 to 6 rounds against Maidana, did Mayweather get exposed losing 4 or 5 rounds to Conor? Did Bud get exposed in getting badly rocked by a midget FW in Gamboa and losing a few rounds to Dulorme and Postol?

    Or how about this one, did Spence get badly exposed LOSING 4 (maybe 5) ROUNDS to Brook, a tenderized by GGG and coming off of a career ending eye injury Brook, I might add, you know the guy that everyone said "Exposed" GGG after winning ONE ****ING ROUND off of him.

    Funny how selective you are when it comes to who you think gets exposed and what you completely ignore and act like it never ****ing happened.:lol:

    Mayweather took nothing but calculated risks for a ****ing decade, and..... crickets, but Thurman does it after coming off of an injury, he gets thrown under the bus and ran over a few times.:lol:

    What evidence do you have that Spence and Crawford beat Thurman? Who has beaten Thurman anyway? The only genuinely competitive match he's had was against Porter, which was drawish 6-6 or 7-5 either way type match, you know the type that you'd vociferously argue in favor of it being a one sided domination by the guys who land the cleaner more effective shots, like you tried to say about Canelo against GGG. Well that would be Thurman in the Porter match using your criteria, so I guess to you that wasn't competitive either.

    Spence lucked out that he broke Brook's other eye socket, because you know as well as I, that had he not, Brook would have in all likelihood cruise to a UD, and that was after standing in front of Spence and outboxing him, not off the backfoot being elusive like Thurman does. As far as Bud goes, the only guy who he's fought recently that he thought could hurt him was Postol and he ran circles around the ring in an attempt to not engage with him after dropping him twice, and building what he thought was an unassailable lead, now that was a ***** move. How many risks is Bud willing to take with a guy who unlike Postol, can genuinely hurt him?

    Oh and that reminds me, why is it okay for Rigo, Lara and Mayweather to haul ass, isn't that the "SWEET SCIENCE", you know, it all about "Hit and Not Get Hit" yet if its a guy you don't like that does it, oh he's a runner. So selective.:lol:

    Here's the reality, you have a double standard and root against Thurman, because he's an oddball and "different" acting, he doesn't fit some cliché that you want him to, so you hate his guts and talk **** about him, yet all the **** you said about Thurman could easily apply to a lot of fighters you're a fan of, and you say nothing. Be a little more consistent would ya?
     
  10. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After elbow surgery, I'm completely fine with him taking a tune up. But that's it. Get back in to the mix and fight the top guys, or retire. Simple as that.