Can we create the perfect boxer: Who has the best jab, ever?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Virgil Hill's was very good. Pastrano & Maxim, seems lots of light heavies possessed good jabs.
     
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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Virgil Hill's was very good. Jesse Burnett had a good jab, thrown like Bob Foster's from the waist.Welsh Howard Winstone basically built a career based on just the jab.Luis Rodriguez had an excellent left.
     
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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Great fighter who beat another great jabber to win the title Joe Brown.
     
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    No I create a stonewall defence, then attack Longside once I've elevated the rook.
     
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  5. George forearm

    George forearm The forearm of George Full Member

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    Hagler really deserves a shout especially when he was fighting a other South paws
     
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  6. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bob Foster- good shout.
    Willie Pastrano
    Maurice Cullen
    Old Stone Face
    Bennie Briscoe
    Ken Buchanan
    Winstone prob the poster boy.
     
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  7. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This seems more realistic due to the multiple weight classes etc. to come up with 4 complete fighters
     
  8. JLP1978

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    Sensible approach.

    In usually try a wall but I think I try maintain it too long.

    How do you play Black?
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Primarily I use the Dutch.

    My current elo is 1753
     
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  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Nope, just one.

    Larry it is.
     
  11. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's a good reason why Larry relied so much on the jab for his championship reign. I've never seen a more viciously delivered jab in boxing (though Ali had his moments, Hearns too....Liston was pretty astounding as well)). Holmes screwed up his face into a rictus of hate, twisted the punch with utmost nastiness, and was ridiculously accurate with it.

    I have to give a lot of credit to Liston, no one had the requisite step in with the jab down to a science as much as he did; his jabs were often mind-bogglingly long and freakishly effective. In fact, I'd probably put Liston a bit ahead of Ali and not far from even with Holmes as far as overall jab effectiveness.
     
  12. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don’t personally use a Queen Pawn opening, but in defending it I am partial to a Nimzo- Indian defence or the occasional underrated Pirc Defence...I seldom open P-Q4 and am not a gambit enthusiast
     
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  13. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Prime Ali's jab was so much faster than every other heavyweight before or since it's hard not to pick him
     
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  14. JLP1978

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    I like to think of myself as a Classical player. I open with Ruy López and go from there. If I am playing Black I may open with g6 and starting looking to Castle ASAP.

    But I am a bum so it usually doesn’t matter.

    When it comes to boxing...I see E4 as starting and orthodox jab..and anything other opening as feinting and looking for counters
     
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  15. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My apologies.
    1. Marciano






























    2. Liston
    3. Ali
    4. Holmes
    5. Louis

    Is that better for you?