Can we say paper champion??????????

Perhaps the whole nonsense about catch-weight is unnecessary, but it's used as leverage for Floyd Mayweather enthusiasts. Anyone with any sense at all knows that Miguel Cotto wasn't hindered at all by the weight stipulations, and he has since said it himself in an interview. Likewise, Clottey was always liable to get outworked due to his tendency to snuggle up for minutes at a time. Using my common sense has allowed me to conclude that the weight stipulations had no baring on any of the results, and none of the opponents were operating any differently than usual.

 

i guess you can't read


i didn't say he wasn't undeated at 140...i said it was pointeless since he was already ruined by the time he fought pac


like margo is undefeated at 154 (or 151 :rofl) but his chin has been cracked, and he has taken a beating....he won't be the same at this point


a beating is a beating....you get you chin cracked, it doesn't matter what weight you are in, what weight you were undefeated in, etc.

a beating is a beating, and it will effect all future performances


as far as resume, i personally believe a resume isn't a bunch of names, but when those names were fought (were they green, prime, or shot) and were they on a roll, or losing, and was the fight close or one-sided, but many people just like to see marquee names

 

Both were as shot as JFK. No disrespect!!

 

That doesn't give Pac a win over Mosley let me repeat that doesn't give pac a win over Mosley. Money faught Mosley which was a big fight drawing big PVP numbers. Why wont Pac fight Mosley? Running, ducking, even maybe scared. Mosley KO's Margo who was the #1 at welter weight Pac won't fight him Money does. Now Mosley is done, too much time off, all type of reasons of why he was schooled in the ring. Still Manny straight out ducked, dodged and escaped that fight and that just fine with his fans.

 

I can read perfectly, Timmy.

What Hatton's undefeated record as a Junior Welterweight actually meant ahead of his fight with the Filipino is up for debate, but it does remain a irrefutable fact. I have nothing further to add on this particular point.

 

:goodThank you! Atleast some people still have common sense, which ain't so common nowadays.:yep

 

and i never said it wasn't fact, which you claim i did

what i said was it's pointless, and that is a fact

 

You already failed. Check the schedule Pacquiao was already scheduled to face David Diaz. Before Campbell beat Juan Diaz.

After Pacquiao destroyed David. He was already being called out by Hatton at Junior Welter Weight.

So he had two choices. Stay at Lightweight and fight a no name in Campbell.

Or go to Junior WW and fight a big name in Ricky Hatton for his titles.

Obviously it doesn't take Rocket Science to figure out which choice made more sense.

I love the fact that you didn't bring up Cotto beating Clottey after Jennings. Obviously that would have ruined your whole argument.

 

Pac ducked mosley to fight the man who beat him that is why it's fine. Cotto beat mosley and pac fought the guy who beat mosley.

 

I don't believe this to be true. I think there is ample evidence to suggest that Ricky Hatton was a lesser fighter at 147lbs than he had been at 140lbs. I felt he lost the fight to Luis Collazo, and I could just as easily attribute his poor showing against Lazcano as a loss of confidence after his humiliating defeat to Floyd Mayweather. It's all speculative, but I give Manny Pacquiao full credit for destroying and beheading Ricky Hatton in two rounds, who was coming off one of his career best performances.

Where?

 

hattons chin has always been weak though

he was nearly taken out by feather fisted collazo in the 12th

put down by eamon maggee

hurt by jon thaxton

 

sorry man, as much as i like cotto, it was more of clottey losing (what a surprise) than cotto winning

 

barrera in 2003 was shot? are you serious?

 

so let's see...those who say floyd ducked margo should be humbled by this logic i guess....but we know that won't happen

this style argument is ok for *******s, but doesn't float anywhere else

 

Marco Antonio Barrera was the consensus P4P number three before being humilated by Manny Pacquiao in brutally one-sided fashion. The Filipino had actually just moved up a weight, whereas Marco was experiancing the greatest win streak of his professional career. Perhaps even more telling is Marco's ability to move on from the Pacquiao defeat to capture his third weight world title in arguably his greatest ever triumph against arch-rival and favorite, Erik Morales.

Shot, indeed.