Can we stop making excuses for fighters from Brooklyn ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Slyk, Feb 29, 2012.


  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am mostly referring to Judah, Bowe, and Tyson. None of these fighters had all the intangibles to leave truly great legacies. Heart, dedication, and smarts are more important than physical traits.

    If you don't have dedication in the gym - this means you are NOT as good of a boxer as others, no matter your physical potential.

    If you cave to mental stress in every major fight - this means you are NOT as good of a boxer as others, no matter your physical potential.

    Posters here are constantly trying to justify the failures of these fighters from Brooklyn. "Raw talent to become the greatest" is often said. No. Dedication is part of a fighters ability, and it must be factored in.

    The saddest excuse is claiming these fighters respective "primes" begin during an impressive streak of wins, and end right before a loss. Quite convenient, no?
     
  2. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you make a valid point in general. Just I don't know if pointing exactly the Brooklyn fighters has a meaning
     
  3. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Brooklyn be Vietnam....
     
  4. Ayatollah

    Ayatollah ESB's Godliest poster Full Member

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    yea.. Brooklyn was godly
     
  5. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson spent 4 of his best years in prison and still won the title again, 10 years after he first won it.
    Bowe retired with one loss...to Evander Holyfield
    **** you talking about

    Judah was never that good in the first place
     
  6. Prince.

    Prince. 24/7 365 Full Member

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    Hardwork

    dedication
     
  7. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    ...makes a fighter with raw talent become one of the best ever. tyson achieved considerable accolades with these attributes and even without. bowe achieved heavyweight supremacy and trailed off after these attributes left him, and those two attributes didn't stay with zab long enough to achieve the greatness any boxing fan knew he could had he maintained them.

    slyk, I dont know what you're talking about or why it's necessary to single out brooklyn other than the fact that all three of the fighters in question hail from that borough, but simply put, had they maintained their work ethic and dedication to the sport, none of them would be questioned in terms of greatness, and in the case of tyson, it's only somewhat plausible to question his legendary status.
     
  8. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Disagree, I think Judah was the ultimate underachiever. He was as talented as they come, but he wanted to be a rapper more than a fighter.
     
  9. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    I never knew people made excuses for those fighters(or any fighter) because of the city they live in. :nut
     
  10. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I despise Judah for the way he wasted his talent.To have what he had and end up known as a glass hearted blowhard is nothing short of disgraceful.
    I know some people say his talent was overrated,and it's a very valid point,but there was something about him that led me to believe he would go very far.
    I ****ed up big time with that one...:patsch
     
  11. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Aight, maybe i was a bit harsh on Zab, underachiever yes