Can we take a moment to recognize

If we throw the 152 pound Canelo Alvarez from 2013 in with a 160 pound Golovkin or a 168 Callum Smith or even a tired old 175 pound Kovalev, how would that go ?

 

Pete Latzo was a good welterweight from the 1920s who took the welterweight title from a 144 pound Mickey Walker in 1926.
Maybe Latzo was a great fighter.

But does the fact that Walker went on to reign undefeated at MW, and then knock out light-heavy and heavyweight contenders, really make Latzo's win better than it was when judged simply as a welterweight fight ?
Latzo's own ventures into 160 and 175 were less impressive.

 

You're forgetting that Floyd already did in that fight. Canelo officially weighed 152, but the reality is that he was closer to 170. Maybe even more.
The size difference between the two was very obvious.
Canelo refused to be weighed the day of the fight. But, it's common practice for fighters to regain 20 pounds or more within 24 hours of the weigh-in.
There's no way Canelo was only 152 pounds. That's a laugh.
For the record, Mayweather never gained much if any weight post weigh-in.
He said he weighed 146 the day of the fight.
So basically, we have a legitimate junior middleweight fighting a light-heavyweight, who got taken to school.

 

You're a fair and level-headed poster, so I'm confused. Why the hate for Mayweather?
I can't blame Mayweather for not wanting GGG at any weight. Whether it's at 154 or 160 because GGG come fight night would be 170+. Mayweather would be giving up a huge size difference to a heavy-handed 'middleweight' who was a very real threat to guys his own size.
Mayweather started at 130.
So where do we draw the line in the interests of fairness?

 

But Alvarez still had to make 152 the day before.
He's bigger now than he was then, stronger, bigger. Better too.

If the "152" Alvarez was "closer to 170", what about the "168" Alvarez now ? He must be well over 170, more like 180, no ?

 

All he had to do was make 152 for a couple of minutes. Dropping up 30 pounds isn't that hard to do since it's almost all water weight. The fighter retains virtually all his performance he had before.
I posted a thread about that not so long ago. I'll find it again and post it here.

And obviously at 168 officially, he'd be closer to 180 or more as you say, against a guy who never scaled above 151.
So again, in the interests of fairness, where is the line drawn?

Maybe we should match '168' Canelo against a rated heavyweight. That's about the same difference.

 

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I understand that Mayweather deserves credit for beating a very good, much bigger, man.

But I'm just pointing out that these later even bigger versions of Alvarez, and his later accomplishments, don't really carry that much relevance to what occurred 8 years ago.
The fights Alvarez is winning now, he probably wouldn't have been able to win at age 23 at whatever 'in ring' weight he was back then.
Let Mayweather's win over him stand on its own merits.

 

Ok, gotcha.

 

I don't think that Mayweather SHOULD be fighting at 160. I think he was at his limit even at 154. But the Floyders pretend that the version of Canelo that we saw against Floyd is the same thing we see at 160 or 168 and that Floyd would beat Saul every time I'm merely pointing out that Floyd had a chance to take a fight at 160 (or even 154) against Golovkin, who the Floyd fans regard as inferior to Canelo - AND HE REFUSED IT. He said it was "easy money" but he didn't touch that fight with a 10 ft pole. That in itself paints a glowing picture of what Floyd himself thought his chances were at 160 or even a full 154 against a world class fighter - slim to none.

 

Hahahahahahahaha no comeback, pure agenda driven

 

Caleb Plant has the IBF belt, so Canelo would still need to beat him to become undisputed at super middleweight.

 

That said I see nothing about Plant that would give Canelo problems.

 

While I am a Caleb Plant fan as a fellow Tennesseean (not too many decent fighters out of TN in recent decades), I’d have to agree that his chances of beating Canelo are low. I will say that slick fighters have given Canelo some trouble in the past, but he just seems to be so much better now and at his absolute peak that I don’t know if we can really hold anything against Canelo from fights that happened years ago. I was mainly just pointing out the technicality of needing the IBF belt to be undisputed.

 

Great win. Yes, Canelo has improved since then, no one is saying otherwise, but a 36-year old that can make LW without much problems easily beating the best JMW isn't something you see every day.

 

I'd be cheering for Plant. You never know.