Last night, just like last week saw some pretty horrid scorecards again. Bakole vs Yoka, in Paris, France was scored 94-94!!/96-92/95-93! While the consensus score from fans and press was 98-90. Charlo vs Castano II in Carson US was scored 89-82 by Feldman before the stoppage, while the consensus score from fans and press was 87-84, with one judge having it right. Last week's big fight has been clearly documented already, with the 3 judges only starting to score fairly after 4 rounds, leaving Bivol just edging in the end. But I haven't seen much on Rozicki vs Peralta in Sydney, Canada (I would swear Sydney was in Australia, but I'd have to check B-Hop's worldmap on that one). Where with a 96-93 consensus score for Peralta, Rozicki was awarded an SD, with one of the 3 Canadian judges actually scored it 97-93 Rozicki. In 3 of these 4 examples the man who won the fight, eventually won in the end, but not because of fair judging in any way. And in the other the WBC took a stand and kept their international belt vacant. But we all know, they only do that when the winner isn't a big name and/or from one of their favorite countries. Winning despite the odds should be more frouned upon imo. 3 guys weren't robbed, but it took domination and just getting stopped for the result to be legit.
Neither do the judges apparently. Did you score Bakole vs Yoka yesterday? And if so, what was your score?
Shadow, Dren, acie and those 3 other die hard Canelo gherkin jerkers aren’t going to like this… “stahp complaining about scoring - ydksab” However, I 100% agree. The corruption runs deeper than ever and the ‘sanctioning bodies’ couldn’t care less, as they’re making a cut. Just ask Bob Bennet…
Nothing will ever change The only thing you can do is hurt them in the pocket by not buying PPV's or attending events. Thankfully in this modern era it's easier than ever to engage in such practises.
Boxing is corrupt as **** and the most corrupt sports in the world. So why is anyone shocked? Boxing will never change.
In the modern world where we have Corrupt scumbags Athletes with their livelihoods on the line Access to personal information I’m waiting for the day where an athlete says **** it and goes to a judges house to seek their own compensation. Dear I say it, James Butler type of insanity (not comparable, but you understand the example). When combat sport athletes commit their life, time away from family, stress and all of the other personal sacrifices - only to be robbed, it wouldn’t shock me in the slightest. You imagine training for 20-25 years only to have your biggest accomplishment stolen from you…
I agree. I'm surprised something like that didn't happen yet. Certainly with quite a number of boxers having criminal records, this could very well happen.
The boxing world is total corrupt. I do not think that it can change. It is too far past the line. not enough willpower to reverse & reform the boxing . every sanction group and region authority is corrupt & gets more worse at the higher world level. the big organization of world boxing (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO" are worse corruption it is so bad worse than we can even imagine.
There should be a rating system for judges where their pay depends on the big fights and the fights depend on the ranking. Ranking should be matched with the overall concensus after the fight. But you need a governing body for that like they have in tennis for example. That way you can control it, hold them accountable and filter out corruption more and more.
I had Yoka winning 8-2. Canelo by 9-3. Lopez over Kambosos 10-2. Ali over Frazier in their first fight. Willard ahead on my card at the (premature) stoppage by Dempsey. Why? What's the issue here?
Honestly, it's not like it's improving, scoring is as bad as it's ever been. When you look at other sports, they at least try to improve with technology ( admittedly with some mixed results ) for the fairest possible playing field, but boxing has no interest in it it seems. The problem ( aside from outright corruption which will always exist to some extent when subjection and money collide ) is the interpretation of the rules means you can always potentially value something higher if you see fit ( say power punches over lighter more abundant activity and accuracy ) and once you combine that with bias, home support, etc etc this will always happen.
A subject near and dear to my heart - bad judging has been around for quite some time, it seems to be getting worse lately. Corruption, ineptitude and a severe lack of consequence will only prolong the terrible scoring of fights. It needs governing properly with judges held to account as part of an overhaul however boxing seems to lack the will to make it happen.
