can Wilder knock out Joshua before getting knocked out himself?

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  1. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    Wilder can't wait about against AJ like he did with Grandpa Ortizn't

    Either try KO AJ in first couple of rounds, or get KO'd.

    But chicken Beyonce won't ever face AJ...... not even for $100m
     
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  2. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    and Romanov too
     
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    This. If anyone s going to tumble, based on what we know it's AJ.
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Yes, I believe an AJ v Wilder fight is going the same way as Bowe v Lewis.
     
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  5. candlelitekid

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    Joshua was weary of Ruiz he'd be timid against Wilder I can't see him fighting him
     
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  6. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Morons who backed Ruiz to beat Joshua again are now jumping ship to Wilder and it's pathetic to see. Joshua is going to outbox that lanky fool and drop the boom on him before he gets the chance to launch one of his leaping straight rights at his grill. Wilder did the funny dance against Molina, got rocked by Fury and nearly KOed by Ortiz. He's always just a shade away from getting dropped, and against Joshua the possibility will become a reality, because Joshua is in fact a world class fighter who's not 50 years old or a recovering drug addict. That's a step too far to tempt fate. I reckon Wilder in his heart senses this, and will continue to run his mouth while conveniently fighting anyone that isn't Joshua, and preferably morbidly obese and/or geriatric.
     
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  7. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Those same morons also assume that Joshua would fight the same fight against Wilder as he did against Ruiz. Why? They're completely different f***ing fighters.
     
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  8. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Nichols and Sconiers says hello.
     
  9. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If not his defence then the lack of meaningful offense. It’s not easy to land big on someone who doesn’t want to be tagged and stays disciplined whole fight.
     
  10. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    100%

    One guy has been wobbled, the other is the HW Amir Khan

    Fight won't go 6 rounds

    Joshua will be praying for a Fury win, as Fury will likely just school him, rather than destroy him!
     
  11. The Clan

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    He was also saved by the bell, the ref & the Doctor Vs a 44 year old Ortiz in fight 1
    He was also saved by the judges Vs Fury
     
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  12. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Totally different fight

    Wilder needs distance to generate power and has equal reach with good speed so staying on the outside isn’t necessarily the most effective tactic. On the flip side Wilder just cannot deal with boxers who can jab, move and feint. He’s been in scorecard trouble in many fights but has pulled it out of the bag with a KO. Except of course against Fury where he clearly lost and was bailed out by dodgy judges. The one thing that Wilder hasn’t contended with is a fighter who can box circles around him but can also knock him out with one punch as Joshua clearly can. Wilder doesn’t have any inside game whatsoever, he doesn’t throw short hooks or uppercuts inside and doesn’t handle the physicality of the wrestle very well.

    So where does that leave us
    Height, reach, fitness, motivation, experience, belief all roughly equal
    KO power probably goes to Wilder but Joshua also has plenty of one shot KO power himself.
    The two key factors will be inside fighting and technical ability and that’s where Joshua has a huge advantage.

    Delivering the power shots is the crucial factor
    Wilder will crudely go about this task by winging in huge overhand rights at every opportunity but as Fury and other decent boxers have shown these can be avoided, for a while at least in most cases.
    Joshua has the infinitely better technical boxing ability and will most likely fashion an opportunity to get his shots home before Wilder and more often than Wilder.

    Wilder does not have the iron jaw of Ruiz and doesn’t recover well after taking a shot, Joshua will not need to show the caution he did Vs Ruiz 2 if he gets Wilder rocking, he’ll go straight for the finish.
     
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  13. BoJangles

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    Wilder got huge confidence that he could KTFO Joshua after he seen the Blob destroy him! Unless he gets outboxed by Fury he'll take the Joshua fight no problem... The problem will be Hearn protecting Joshua by making Wilder fight Whyte first like he had in contracts before that Wilder declined!
     
  14. FrankinDallas

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    Joshua gets big props from me for last nights' bout. I didn't think he could stick to the obvious strategy of
    defeating a smaller, slower footed, shorter armed opponent.

    Can he and his team come up with a plan to defeat a larger, quicker, opponent with a longer reach and a deadly
    right hand? Based on his fight with Wlad, I'd say a resounding NO even though he's gotten better.

    Wilder would put away Joshua if he got him hurt, unlike the old and defensive Wlad.

    I really see Wilder by KO in the later rounds. It only take one punch to take him out, and I think that's what will happen.
     
  15. BoJangles

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    Hearn reminds me of those Slave Masters that would force their biggest Slaves to fight each other and charge local plantation owners to watch! He's a shady guy no doubt... No way he'd feed Joshua to Wilder in Vegas or New York, he'll force Wilder to London or Mecca so he can dictate as a dictator does every aspect of the fight!
     
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