can Wilder knock out Joshua before getting knocked out himself?

It's a 50/50 fight and the best matchup that can be made in the entire sport. Wilder is getting older and it will be a shame if it doesn't happen in the next 12 months. Having said that, I think Fury is going to win the rematch anyway and derail the event. Wilder/Joshua would be guaranteed thrills, not so sure about Fury/Joshua.

 

Wilder won’t survive to the later rounds!

Joshua’s superior boxing skills will find a home for that right hand or left hook and as we know Wilder can’t take a punch

 

yeah my thoughts too. This won’t go passed 6 rounds, either Wilder’s delivered the right hand or he’s been taken out himself at that point. He needs to land early otherwise I just see Joshua taking him out. Wilders defence is non existent and I don’t think he’ll hold up if he gets tagged by a big puncher who can throw in bunches.

Also, I think Fury probably wins the rematch and we get Joshua vs Fury anyway.

 

LOL@ you...

He ran like a rabbit from a complete No Show 300 pound stumpy Blob and every time the zero traing fatso came close he got bambi legs but now Glass packing AJ is going into seek and destroy mode against the hardest puncher the division has seen in a long time.........I guess you believe Santa Claus is real too....there is no way in hell that Hearns is letting his meal ticket fight Wilder under any circumstances anytime soon..AJ is going to fight puddings from now on on Home soil......the irony is that eventually one of those hand picked Bums will shatter that glass again..

 

No.

 

This the same Wilder that had an extended corner after Ortiz gave him a smack in their first fight. Or the same Wilder that got gifted a draw against Fury.

Yeah Wilder can stop Joshua but Joshua can stop Wilder and out box him. Advantage Joshua.

First Wilder has to get through Fury. May not have a belt in a few months

 

They believe this because a lot of people on this forum have short memories;

They believe that AJ boxed cautiously against Ruiz, therefore, he will box cautiously for the rest of his career. They don't seem to realise, like you do, that fighters often change styles and tactics depending on their opponent.

Similily, they believe that Ruiz will now always fight at 280+ pounds for the rest of his career because that's what he did against AJ. Yes, he has never been the most dedicated, but it is not out of the realms of possibility that this embarrassing episode might be the kick up the backside Ruiz needs.

On the Brit forum many people are writing Dillian Whyte of as a fat loser because he came in out of shape against Wach. The fact he has had the uncertainty of a drug charge hanging over his head the past 6 months, and he took the fight on late notice is lost on them.

What's the lesson to be learnt here? Many people are idiots who only base their opinions on what happened recently, and they have no understanding of context or nuance.

 

I can’t believe a Wilder fan wrote that with a straight face
Surely a wind up
Lol

 

You don't appear to understand the nuances of boxing, and that fighters change tactics depending on who they fight.

AJ fought like that against Ruiz as Ruiz is a better in fighter than AJ. Ruiz also has a solid chin. Ruiz also has slow feet. AJ and his team took these lessons from the first fight and devised a game plan to beat him the second time around. It wasn't particularly exciting, but it got the job done, got AJ his belts back, and the big fights against Wilder and Fury are once again viable.

Against Wilder, a completely different fighter to Ruiz, the tactics will change.

Wilder is an outside fighter. Essentially, he is a poor man's Wlad. He is overly cautious, like Wlad, and like Wlad, he predominantly throws the jab-straight right at a stationary target at range. He has a poor defence, an average chin, and zero in fighting game. Like I said, he's a poor man's Wlad. AJ and his team will know that the closer you are to Wilder, the safer you are. Expect AJ to open cautiously at range, get his timing right, and then attack Wilder behind the jab. He can actually take risks coming forward trying to close the distance because, unlike Ruiz, Wilder doesn't punch when his opponent punchers and he doesn't counter.

Different opponents, different tactics.

 

If I am AJ I would adapt the same approach Lennox Lewis did against Golota and Grant. Just go straight for him from the first round catch Wilder off guard because unlike Fury AJ has enough power to hurt Wilder early. In saying all that I still favour Wilder by KO as I don't think that AJ has the mental strength Lewis did to back himself early.

 

Grant was a HBO hype job that sucked from the get go and Golata was a light punching, but skilled, mental midget...it is easy to come out guns blazing against that type of opposition..............a totally shot Tyson waxed Golata in 2 too............Golata never ever won a meaningful fight.

 

I think joshua needs to be big for it. 255 lbs. Wilder struggled with furys size said he wanted to put on 30 lbs after it. Wilder will time joshua who skips about the ring trying to box for me.

A thirty pound heavier joshua who,s a better boxer....with the same length should be enough to get the job done tho. Still say a lot of wilders success is down to fighting smaller lengthed guys. His whole tactics are geared towards it. When he doesnt have that advantage and is up against a guy that can punch like joshua 30 lbs heavier. I think he,ll spend a lot of the fight scared to throw that big right hand. Hes getting free reign with it because opponents need to follow him because of the reach disadvantage. When thats gone....it,ll show he cant actually box all that much. Can see joshua bscking him up and bullying him a bit.

 

Yeah I am not saying it is exactly the same I am saying that I think this would be a good game plan for AJ because I don't think he is skilled enough to avoid Wilder's right hand for 12 rounds

 

Clueless..

WK had ZERO infighting game and there is no reason when you are 6'6 and above to have one.....you keep your opponent at long range while they have to get tbhru 6-7 feet of kill zone to get to you.....boxing 101.

Wilder has a poor chin ? When was he ever knocked out by a late sub and quit ? The last time he was on the floor was YEARS ago while AJ had to get off the canvass against the Ghost of WK.

Fact: AJ is packing serious glass and ran from a no show stumpy out of shape fat man............Ortiz is easily the better and more experienced pure boxer than AJ and got ko'ed twice plus he was a south paw..............AJ is wide open for the right hand and always was and that is the reason he is fighting Hookers since the WK right hand put him down......if the Bodybuilder was terrified of the light punching Ruiz he will be in full panic mode against Wilder.......if Wilder can put the elusive stink the joint out Fury on his back he is switching AJ's lights out, end of.

 

As well as looking at boxing in simplistic terms; mainly talking about power and chins. You also can't comprehend the written word too well, either.

My talking about Wlad fighting like Wilder was just an analogy. As I thought was pretty obvious considering this is a thread about Wilder and AJ, I was talking in terms of Wilder and how his zero in fighting game could be exploited by AJ.

Wlad's style worked for him. It doesn't work as well for Wilder, though, because of his technical difficiencies. This, I believe can be exploited by AJ if he fights in the manner I mentioned previously. Its a style he has fought in before, so we know he can do it.

I did not say Wilder has a poor chin. I said he has an average chin.

What has Ortiz got to do with this? Yes, he is a better boxer than AJ (although he has incredibly slow feet), but, and once again, if you had read my post properly, I wasn't saying AJ should fight Wilder on the outside like he did Ruiz. If I had, then yes, your Ortiz example would be apt. However, as I clearly stated, AJ will more than likely go on the front foot. My reasons for why he will do this are also clearly stated.

Come on, man. If you want a proper boxing conversation then at least read what I say properly, and try to understand it. Your first and third paragraphs clearly show that you failed to understand the, frankly, simple and very understandable point I was making. That's why your responses had very little to do with my statements. As for your second paragraph, you have just made something up and claimed that I stated it.