Can Wilder make that 100 million now?

No. Without a dance partner that draws in the casual fans he isn't making 100 million for any fight. People will watch him fight Aj, Fury , and Ruiz but the big hype PPV sales went poof with AJ losing.

 

He’s not gonna be making the money he might have and he’s not gonna be in a fight as big. I’m more worried about the guys who have promised to pay him a load of money because they’re not recouping that without the AJ fight hence the marination.

It’ll be interesting to see the PPV buys for the Ortiz fight, we’ll see where his popularity in the US is at.

 

Do you actually care about the bout itself or are you concerned with muh ppv's?

 

Youre not going to make 100m fighting Ortiz, Arreola, Martin, Kownacki and Fury thats for sure.

 

At end of day Wilder, AJ, Fury or indeed Ruiz won't be in need of crowd funding to pay their household bills, AJ and Wilder gambled on their bout and lost, but living on the breadline is not likely.

 

The thread is about if wilder can make 100 million or not so id saying talking about PPV buys is pretty relevant isn’t it?

 

DAZN paid Canelo $350 million and he wasn't going to fight Joshua.

Finkel attended Joshua-Ruiz with the president of DAZN.

If DAZN wants to play in the heavyweight division, they are going to have to pay to get Wilder.

If DAZN wants to crash into the U.S. market, matching Wilder and Ruiz for all the belts would be one way to do it.

DAZN doesn't need Eddie Hearn to do that.

Haymon's got them both. Time to deal.

Wilder's price just DOUBLED.

 

Yes. Hence his rematches against Stiverne and Ortiz.

 

So AJ lost a fight, not such a big deal. He is still a big draw and can climb back to the top.

Its embarassing but not a nail in a coffin.

Dont forget Lennox's mishaps.

 

Yes. But Wilder isn't Canelo.

So?

Well maybe not. Let's see if AJ wins the rematch. If he does and Wilder loses the Fury rematch (which is probably the most likely scenario) then Wilder isn't necessary in any factor in the Division.

I agree. In fact it's probably the best way

I agree. Wow this is a first, twice in one post

Again, AJ will have a rematch, Wilder has his fights with Fury and Ortiz. They aren't guaranteed wins, if both Win then we've got a mega fight, and I look forward to it.

Did it?

 

If Wilder didn't rematch Ortiz, people would forever argue that Wilder was helped out by the ref and he never gave Ortiz a rematch. So, Ortiz is getting a rematch.

If Wilder didn't rematch Fury, people would forever argue that Wilder couldn't beat Tyson Fury. So he's going to rematch a Fury with plenty of time to prepare and have tuneups.

If Wilder knocks out Ortiz and Fury early, like he did Stiverne, all the controversy goes away.

It is about legacy.

And if Wilder knocks out Fury and Ruiz ... and wins all the belts as well as the lineal title ... there isn't a whole helluva lot anyone can complain about.

Wilder is three winnable fights away from being 44-0-1 with 43 knockouts - possessor of all the alphabet titles, the lineal championship and a dozen successful title defenses - and a top 10 all-time heavyweight champ.

You guys need to start waking up to that fact.

Seriously. It's getting embarrassing how long it's taking some of you to grasp the situation.

 

300 years from now...Historians will give Stiverne credit for being the first human to go 12 rounds with the Wilder...So Wilder had to do that rematch for history, otherwise it will seem as if Wilder avoided it

Ortiz hurt Wilder bad & Wilder wants a rematch for obvious reasons, so do the boxing public who want to see Wilder (in a high risk fight)...Excellent fight....Fury rematch also necessary

 

Ortiz did, and j agree it was an excellent fight (in fact it was my pick for FOTY). But it had a very definitive ending and Ortiz hasn't done a thing to warrant a rematch and hasn't improved in the slightest. Wilder could be chasing the other champ (Joshua at the time) for real legacy building fights or other fighters that aren't 278 and that he hasn't already beat.

 

There is a whole melodrama going on behind the scenes with Joshua right now.

Not only am I not convinced Joshua exercises his return clause (because Joshua has to exercise it, not Hearn), I will be surprised if Joshua even fights again in 2019.

 

No he isn't. He's 3 fights away from being a top 20 HW. And even that depends on who they are. Let's just say he beats Ortiz, Fury and Ruiz next. He'll have a dozen Defences of his title and only 5 of them were actually good and he should've lost 1. And when we factor in that he ain't guaranteed to win those fights then he definitely isn't the stuff of top 10 material. His résumé would litterally be

Fury
Ruiz
Ortiz 1
Ortiz 2
Breazeale

That's not top 10 HW stuff and we both know it.

Not when there's undisputed fights and the number 1 contenders it isn't. It's about avoiding threats to him

Well no. He'll still be remembered as a power puncher who lost to a %60 Fury. And he is he really likely to blast Fury out?

They'd be right.

Again they'd be right.