Can Wilder stop Ortiz earlier this time?

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  1. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What do you think? Can Wilder actually make adjustments from the first encounter and stop Ortiz much earlier and quicker, much like against Stiverne? I think Wilder stopping Ortiz again in emphatic fashion will solidify his status as THE top dog in HW IMO.

    Unless of course Ortiz somehow manages to pull a Ruiz Jr. That would be an interesting outcome.
     
  2. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cant see it. Ortiz too much skill to get stopped like stiverne did the second time. Can never say never at heavyweight boxing....i reckon ortiz has a decent shougtof the upset tho. Good fighter. Pity he cant make wilder lead cause he,d beat him if he could. Almost had wilder out the first time afterall.
     
  3. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    It'll be quicker, I think.

    Fury would remain top dog for me though
     
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  4. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    He absolutely should do, Ortiz has looked slower and really struggled of late, a mismatch and pointess fight at this point in time IMO

    Wilder in 4 rds or less I expect from the WBC champion
     
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  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I expect Wilder will stop Luis Ortiz much earlier this time. Like inside three minutes.

    Same when he fights Fury.

    Wilder will weigh more. He'll be more aggressive, because he knows he can put them on the deck. And they (Ortiz and Fury) will be more hesitant, especially Ortiz, because he put Luis down three times already.

    Wilder TKO1 Ortiz II
     
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  6. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed. Ortiz has looked like molasses last few times out.
     
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  7. Max Thunder

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    Wilder only got the stoppage last time because Ortiz's old man gas tank kicked in. Otherwise he would have been ****ed.

    Only one making adjustments will be the superior boxer of the two.

    Ortiz by KO3.
     
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  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't agree that it's pointless. Ortiz remains a top five contender by Ring and is #2 in the WBC. And people still complain Ortiz got cheated in his first fight with Wilder and would complain forever about it if Wilder never fought him again.

    Ortiz has his rematch. Be careful what you wish for, as the saying goes.
     
  9. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Ortiz looked like hot ass against Hammer and was open to right hands all night long. If Wilder can't get him out of there in a couple of rounds I'll be surprised.

    All signs point to an early round blitzing IMO.
     
  10. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    Well, we are all entitled to opinions and I respect them.

    I don't think Ortiz was particulary cheated, the doc has the final say no matter what IMHO but since Wilder says he want's to fix his "controversial" victories, then good luck too him. As long as we dont see Scorniers on Nichols rematches too, then this one can slide for me.

    Maybe if Ortiz shows up, we may have a good scrap but going off his previous performance, he has no chance. Just my opinion.
     
  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nichols didn't come out for round 2. Sconiers was down four times and stopped in four. Nobody claimed either was cheated.

    Ortiz fans ranted long and loud about the first Wilder fight. They'll get their wish.
     
  12. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Wilder, blown up with confidence from KOing Breazeale, will try and do the same with Ortiz. However, Ortiz catches him with a counter left in the first round and gets tko'd in the second.
     
  13. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    I think the fights signed and Wilder won't back out now, they got their wish.

    Wilder under 4.
     
  14. mb1233

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    4-5 rounds this time.
     
  15. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    I think it actually goes longer, possibly goes the distance...I think Ortiz will be cautious and won't have as much success offensively but will survive longer and lose a pretty wide decision.
     
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