Can Wlad be beat?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by box03, Sep 20, 2007.


  1. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course he can. No-one's invincible, all it would take is the right punches, just like everyone else.
     
  2. Darthmage

    Darthmage SILENCE! I KEEL J00! Full Member

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    Wlad is a totally different monster now... I don't see peter KOing him and he is sure as hell not going to UD him.
     
  3. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Wlad still shows his weakness to pressure, and it was quite evident in the Peter fight. WHen he fights a guy that can actually put a lot of pressure on him and punch a little he will be exposed once again for that weakness.
    He will never possess the mean streak or fighting ability that Lennox Lewis was able to achieve under Emanuel Steward. As long as guys continue to try and box with him on the outside, or conform to just being impaled on his excellent jab, he will be very difficult to beat.
    It's going to take a fighter that goes for broke and tries to make him fight that will prevail, and right now there isnt too many guys like that. Too bad Evander is so old, because he has what it takes to make that type of fight.
     
  4. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Peter is just not very polished. He has a lot of ability, tremendous power, and real fast hands for a big guy, hes just not being taught the importance of boxing behind his power, and thats why he hasnt reached his potential. From what Ive heard from some trainers who have worked with him, hes lazy and doesnt listen very well in the gym.
     
  5. madpup

    madpup Active Member Full Member

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    Spot on, I totally agree. The guy to beat him would also have to have a very good chin.
     
  6. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In the last coupla years, Wlad has been destroying opponents such as DaVarryl Williamson ( W Techn split Dec in 5 rounds ( despite knockdown & cut by), 10-02-04, LV, NV), Eliseo Castillo ( TKO 4 rds 4-23-05, Dortmund, Germany), Samuel Peter ( W UD 12 ( despite knockdown 3 times by) 9-24-05, AC, NJ ), Chris Byrd ( TKO 7 rds 4-22-06, Mannheim, Germany), Calvin Brock ( TKO 7 rds, 11-11-06, NYC, NY), Ray Austin ( TKO 2 rds, 3-10-07, Mannheim, Germany), Lamon Brester ( TKO 6 rds, 07-07-07, Cologne, Germany)... Is there anybody Wladimir Klitschko is assigned to fight? Yes, the winner of the IBF tournament with Calvin Brock, Chris Byrd, Alexander Povetkin (13-0, 10 KOs), Eddie Chambers (27-0, 15 KOs)... Answer to the main question, is there anybody that could beat Wlad? Possibly, but Wlad is not going to face anyone other that the IBF tourney winner. But the title of this thread underlines what I have been saying too many times by now, you cannot elect a fighter based on assumptions such as "he seems unbeatable" - he still gat to deliever!
     
  7. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    At this point, Lewis would be destroyed. I can't believe I just said that, but it's true.

    If the current versions of both fought, Wlad would win 8 out of 10 times :deal
     
  8. djrock247

    djrock247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was at Wlad v. Peter 1 and I was pulling for Peter but I knew he was clearly outmatched. I think that fight was a couple of years ahead of schedule for Peter. If it happened today, I don't know what to think. On one hand, Wlad has a lot more confidence than the first time around and will probably be more inclined to open up and throw the left hook. On the other hand, with Peter's apparent granite chin it may not be such a good idea to open up and throw the left hook. I honestly believe that if this fight happened today, SOMEBODY would get KO'ed.
     
  9. T.S.

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    I remember when Pittsburgh Steeler QB Terry Bradshaw was asked if the Los Angeles Rams could beat his highly favored team in the Super Bowl.
    He said "Sure they can. I wouldn't bet on it though"

    I feel same way about Wlad. Sure he can be beat. But I wouldn't bet on it for the next couple of years.
     
  10. jopez707

    jopez707 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Peter could in a rematch, but I would like Peter to develop his skills more before he fights Klitschko again. A Klischko-Chagaev match would be interesting, other than that I am not sure.
     
  11. kaygb

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    Excellent post Lampley. :good
     
  12. grouch

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    Peter's style has changed during the 2 fights with Toney - Peter learnt how to box. This style is more suitable for Wlad and in the rematch Peter will be ko'd, as what happened with any other boxer (not puncher) Wlad fought.

    In fact, if Peter has any chance against Wlad he should return to his old style - plodding and swinging for the fences. Look what happened to Brewster when he decided to go cute on Wlad.
     
  13. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very true, you try and box Wlad you will lose and will probably get knocked out. I do feel once he does get Wlad hurt he should throw more straight punches, and not smother his punches as much.
     
  14. 11player

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    The way I see it, if Wlad is in shape he is very tough to beat, but he has his flaws, which are well known by now.

    Peter and Povetkin are the ones with the best chances of beating him, IMO, but there are some other guys that will give him a run for his money and might beat him on a lucky day. Fighters like Valuev, Chagaev, Virchis, Dimitrenko, Thompson.
     
  15. SevenSamurai

    SevenSamurai 3 year ESB vet. Full Member

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    Only Povetkin could beat him out of the current top 100, unless he gets injured and fights with an injury.