Can Wlad Break Joe Louiss Record Of 25 Title Defences? Manny Steward says he can!!

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  1. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    IBF says he's the best challenger in the world. :lol:

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  2. Hands of Iron

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    Waiting to see if Wlad gives us a gem on par with: "Mormeck is like Tyson, only faster."

    :deal

    (I'm sure he was misunderstood, but still) :rofl
     
  3. Mendoza

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    Can he? I think so. Will he? Much depends on how his body holds up.
     
  4. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he will have to get in the ring at least 3 times a year, he will have to come up with 10 challengers, at least if he gets close it will show louis's bum o da month club weren't that bad compared to who wlad would have to fight to get that number.

    so no, he is v unlikely to get 25
     
  5. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's how I see it.
     
  6. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's based on the entire career. To view it otherwise is simply cherry-picking.
    Good Lord. :lol:
     
  7. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Name another pair who were the top two in the same division and contending for the championship.

    Fine with me. Most of Wlad's fights look like sparring sessions anyway, and the clarity alone would be worth it.
     
  8. McGrain

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    Well sooner or later there is going to be a situation where we have three outstanding fighter in a division, not two, with the top two treading water because they aren't allowed to meet for promotional reasons. This is the type of occasion that merits a bodyswerve I think. Boxing is as much about crowning champions as anything else and it's a shame to let the promoters put a spanner in the works when there is a viable alternative to #1 v #2.

    But that viability is what made the Klitschko-Chagaev fight a little suspect as a king-maker to me, by which I mean the distance in quality between Vitali and Chagaev was enough to make the decision suspect. The #3 needs to be there or thereabouts.
     
  9. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah, I'm having a good time.
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    Its possible, but I kinda doubt it.. He's 36 years old, and at the rate he's fighting, it could take years to acquire that additional 10 fights. Furthermore, as some have already mentioned, its somewhat cloudy as to "when" exactly he took claim to being "the champ." prior to the late 2000's he was more or less a title holder who was the best among peers rather than being the undisputed champion..
     
  11. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's clear that the boxing world has thrown up it's collective hands and appointed Wlad as champion. Hey, he beat Barney Rubble! Let's say he's champ now! What the hell-Why not!

    That 1 vs. 3 stuff sounds like enabling, brother. I know a pair of parents who let their kid stay home from school because they don't want to fight her about it every morning. So she's flunking out and smoking weed in the basement. Boxing is the way it is because the powers that be are allowed to do what they want to do. Writers wring their hands and fans moan once in a while but that's the end of it. No one steps up with an intelligent plan of action. And eventually, we just start accepting nonsense as the norm.
     
  12. McGrain

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    Yeah it enables a champion to be crowned where one wouldn't be otherwise. When the difference between 2 and 3 is negligible and 1 v 2 can't be made, I think that's okay. These guys only fight twice a year now and that's the way it's going to be. The idea that 3 fights 1 to become 1 or 2 so that he can fight 1 or or a new 2 for the title is a little much.
     
  13. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it'd be better if the difference between 2 and 3 are negligible and 2 won't fight 1, pull a switch-a-roo in the rankings.
     
  14. McGrain

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    Very difficult if #2 has beaten 4, 5 and 8 in fourteen months. But yeah, nothing wrong with that really.
     
  15. TBooze

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    But that take is from an American slant. There was at times post 1920 genuine claims backed by Britain (NSC and BBB of C), Europe (IBU/EBU), Australia, Canada and the British Empire/Commonwealth. As I mentioned the only time I can see eight genuinely universally recognized champions in eight divisions, was that short period post World War II.