Can Wladimir become an ATG?

Yeah but theres a problem with him when he is punched lol

 

If anyone in these days of split championships has a chance, it is him. Head to head, I already take against many sacrosant fighters of the past. As long as he has Manny behind him.

 

Not with the current weakness of the heavyweight division. It's not like he's fighting in the era of Ali-Foreman-Frazier-Norton, and he just missed out on the Tyson-Holyfield-Lewis era.

 

I want to know why some seem to really get their panties in a bunch when Wlad is compared to Ali, as if Wlad is not even worthy to be mentioned in the same thread as Ali.

Ali was one of the all time best heavies, ever, certianly, but he could be beaten, and was beaten by a few fighters who didn't have have the assets that Wlad does.

Not saying what may happen on any given night....I am merely making an observation.

 

Because Wladimir hasn't accomplished nearly the amount Ali did, he hasn't shown the heart Ali did, and he is not considered one of the 5 or 10 best fighters in boxing like Ali is.

With that said, he would give Ali a pretty good fight - especially in the second half of Ali's career. Could he beat that Ali that lost to Norton and the Ali around that time? Yes

 

(this is a repost)
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Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
I was at the Cooper-Ali fight To say Cooper owned Ali is preposterous
I was pro Cooper in that fight but Ali was dominating and started showboating Henry caught him with the perfect left hook and put him down in the final seconds of the round. Angelo 's quick thinking and Ali's ability to take a punch enabled him to survive. I went to that fight hoping to see the Louisville Lip silenced and left it a life long Ali fan
Theres not a HW fighting today that would have a prayer against Ali
Lennox is the best since Ali thats for sure

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Yes Ali was dominating but since you've seen the fight.
You know as well as I do that this fight should've been a huge upset.

It never happened because Ali's corner did the right thing at the right time...Without his bull**** excuses...And with an instant restart...Ali would've been either Koed or Tkoed.

My point still stands...We all know that Muhammad Ali , is the #1 HW of all time.

But my point is , if Cooper could do it. (no offense)
Just imagine what a huge , skilled fighter would've done...
I repeat , there was no such thing as a Lennox Lewis back in Ali's era.

And like I said before , most of his competition was mainly against US fighters too. the competition wasn't as international as it is today.

Better yet , the term "white hope" became a norm in the english language because the only white boxers america used to have were monumental cans for the afro american athlete.

Best white american HW fighter they used to have back then (in Ali's era) was Jerry Quarry. And that's not saying much...Even though Quarry had a lot of heart and was always ready for a war
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It's all relative...Tyson used to beat monumental bums...and no one was ever bitching about it.

 

After this fight, I have him at #10 right behind Holyfield at #9, and Vitali at #8 and just ahead of Lennox Lewis who trails behind at #11. I think he already is a top ten fighter no doubt.

 

i think the heavweight division right now is far better then it was when brewster, ruiz, byrd, and injured vitali had the belts.

 

You're kidding right?

 

Wlad is a good fighter, the best in the division now, but his career is not comparable to Ali's right now. It's not even close. Wlad's career is not even comparable to Ali's best opponents' careers.

 

What are you talking about?

 

Wlad can become a real All Time Great if he beats 6 more contenders, while unifying belts and becoming Lineal Champ.

The rankings change with time, so it's impossible to give a list of fighters that he should beat, but I'll risk to give one: Chagaev, Peter, Rahman, Virchis, Valuev or Liakhovich, Krasniqi or Sanders (only to avenge).