Can you do too much Cardio?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Mitchell_NY, Jan 16, 2011.


  1. Mitchell_NY

    Mitchell_NY Active Member Full Member

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    Is it possible to do too much cardio? I have heard in the past that clotted does 12 miles per day running when he is training. Do you gets think that at a point is becomes no longer beneficial by doing too much? My personal opinion is that there is never enough cardio
     
  2. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    I think there's better ways to run than doing 12 long distance running miles.
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    well it ****s up your knees in the long run right?
     
  4. blue_87

    blue_87 Quebec newbie Full Member

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    Every human body needs a break sometimes. He can't do this every single day in a week because his legs, his body is going to break from everywhere.

    Even marathoners, yes maratoners are very far from this 12 miles a day.
    I use to run the 10k and read alot about the running. And getting a better cardio is way harder, needs way more discipline and takes much more longer than getting bigger muscle.

    You have to pace yourself slowly if you wanna avoid injuries through the process.

    Marathoners usually from what I red has one break a week(mean no training at all) and also 2 soft training a week, like an easy 10k or less I think.

    12 miles, it's only 6 miles short from the wall(the part your brain is trying to burn fat instead sugar) and it would be really hard to train your other boxing training if he spent over 2000 calories a day. Cause I guess, he's going to boxe sometimes later in the day?

    Boxing is more than cardio, it's everything, the perfect training to me...

    Too much is like too less

    The human body unfortunatly has a limit.
     
  5. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    Absolutely there is

    Long distance cardio is probably the worst form of conditioning for a fighter. There is little carryover, it conditions you to be slow and weak and is detrimental to power development

    Hill runs, prowler runs, sand sprints, jump rope are all far superior methods


    I always laugh when I hear of Fighter A bragging about how many miles they run. Its always a guarantee they will gas halfway through the fight
     
  6. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Why do you think long distance cardio worked for the guys in the old days?:think
     
  7. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it's helpful, but we have a better understanding of aerobic vs. anaerobic and different ways to work out now that weren't present back then. Just going out and running 10 miles every day is a good work out, but it might not be as great as people think.
     
  8. MexicanJew

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    It didnt. That is why old time fighters are comparatively less muscular than fighters of modern day. All the ****ing running cut down their lean mass

    Their conditioning was excellent IN SPITE OF the running, not because of it

    Old time fighters did however spar rounds much more than many modern day fighters. Their conditioning was done in the gym.

    The best conditioning you can for your sport is the sport itself

    Manny Steward made note of this when he began training Wladimir Klitschko. He spoke of how the Klitschko brothers would do a lot of athletic conditioning with tempo runs and explosive conditioning with medicine balls, but they didnt do much sparring, at least in his opinion

    He reduced the volume of Wladimirs athletic conditioning and upped the volume of his sparring.

    If you read interviews before Wlads fights, Steward often mentions how much he had him spar in preparation. And Wlad has never tired once since training with Steward
     
  9. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    so you think they had excellent gas from sparring not long distance runs?

    I have a friend who swears by no running at all. He just jump ropes and does some other **** for his cardio
     
  10. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    maybe they ALL were doing it, so no one had the advantage of better training methods...just a guss though
     
  11. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roadwork's helpful and all but it doesn't simulate the pace of a fight. Sparring and something like jump roping especially at a high intensity is better than just running a long distance. Sure you can run and run if you do that but it doesn't prepare you for explosive bursts of energy which a fight does.
     
  12. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sure there is too much. There is too much of anything. Even "good" stuff. Eat too much veggies and you can get sick.
     
  13. theword

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    Doesn't Juan Diaz not run at all? I think I read somewhere that all he did was stairs or some such thing. I know that might be a bit of a strange example to use but the guy was busy in the ring and never gassed horribly in any of the fights that I saw.
     
  14. bald_head_slick

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    I think people try to sell what they want to hear. Long distance aka road work just works. Especially when you are a pro and come home and go to bed right after.

    If your bag, mitt, and sparring sessions are intense? It is like training both sides aerobic and anaerobic. You load up on either? You may have a problem.
     
  15. MexicanJew

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    It was from all the sparring they did. Plus they fought much more often, they always had to be in fighting shape. If you are sparring 30-40 rounds a week and hitting heavy bag, you dont need to run another 30 miles on top of that. It does NOTHING

    Running is not useful for any sport except running. The only "running" athletes should do is sprinting. A boxer I might have run intervals of 400 meter sprints with 1 minute rests in between. He would only do this maybe 8 times at most, no more than 20 minutes

    Hill sprints would be hugely useful, or sprinting on dunes, on soft sand

    Pushing a prowler sled is excellent

    Doing things like woodchops combined with heavy punching on a heavy bag

    The problem with running is that EVERYONE knows how to do it. Hence all these old time trainers that dont know any better, and fighters that dont know any better, and there is complete resistance to anything actually based in real science because "it worked for the old timers" and this "MODERN training is stupid lets keep it old school". Its perpetuated ignorance

    Look up guys like martin rooney, greg jackson, alwyn cosgrove, robert dos remedios, charles polliquin, jason ferruggia. These guys all train mma athletes and fighters and football players, and NO ONE runs. The only "running" they do is sprinting type stuff. They never have any do long distance running of any kind