CAN You Make An Argument Against Usyk Being FOTY 2018

A lot of guys have, even at cruiserweight.

Evander Holyfield arguably had a better year in 1988 when he unified the cruiserweight title by knocking out Carlos DeLeon and then he moved up to heavyweight and knocked out James "Quick" Tillis and Pinklon Thomas.

And he lost the Fighter of the Year that year to Mike Tyson, who destroyed Michael Spinks that year for the Lineal title.

 

Usyk for me. Unifying all four titles against two undefeated boxers in their own backyards, then defending it against another former champion on his home turf inside 16 pro fights makes a FOTY worthy boxer.

Inoue has a shot, two impressive one round KOs of good world championship class fighters. A three weight world champ inside 16 fights. He might be the closest contender.

Canelo's win against Golovkin is possibly the best single result of the year, but the vast majority don't think he actually won. And beating Fielding isn't going to add to that since it's a cherry pick of the highest order and not even for a real title.

Loma - has a shout if/when he beats Pedraza, three weight world champ against a fighter of the quality of Linares and then defending against another top contender.

Wilder - if he beats Fury then he has a shout but not for me. Ortiz was a good win, but is only a contender and pushing 40 or more. And there are too many question marks over Fury for a win against him to be a decisive factor. If Fury was to pull it off after all that against an undefeated puncher like Wilder, he'd become a contender.

Can't think of anyone else really.

 

They're all heavyweights. They all enter the ring and fight weighing more than 200 pounds. None of Usyk's wins this year beat Luis Ortiz or Tyson Fury. None of them.

We're not arguing about the opponents of a bantamweight and a cruiserweight.

All the constant badmouthing of Wilder's opponents aside, if you matched the unbeaten Fury or the unbeaten Ortiz against anyone Usyk beat this year, Fury and Ortiz would be huge favorites.

If this is just going to be another Wilder bashing thread, there are plenty of others to jump on.

If Wilder knocks out the unbeaten Fury, after knocking out the unbeaten Ortiz, then Wilder deserves to be Fighter of the Year.

 

Do you have a learning disability?

Do you honestly believe the cruiserweights are entering the ring at 199 pounds 30 hours after weighing in? Every other division below heavyweight has guys who dry out to make weight and then they rehydrate ... except CRUISERWEIGHTS?

If so, you are hands down the most naive person on this board.

They (cruisers and heavys) all weigh more than 200 pounds when they get in the ring. They are all heavyweights.

Wilder weighed 214 for the Ortiz fight. I'd wager Usyk AND Bellew AND Brieidis AND Gevor ALL weighed at least as much when they stepped in the ring Saturday. THEY ALL do. Brieidis was fighting at heavyweight nine years ago.

I'm done with this. I made my case for Wilder.

If he starches Fury, he should get it.

 

Your argument is flawed because Canelo and GGG don't weigh in the middleweight limit when they step in the ring. Canelo has been logged unofficially as weighing close to 175 on fight nights.

In all those lower divisions, the guys dry out and then rehydrate. And the guys in the divisions above them do, too.

At cruiserweight, they rehydrate to well over 200 pounds. THAT is the heavyweight division. The heavyweights are all over 200 pounds, too. They're all competing in the same division.

The cruiserweights and heavyweights are ALL heavyweights on fight night. Get it?

The cruiserweights ceased being light heavys who couldn't make weight anymore when they moved the weight limit up to 200 pounds and moved the weigh ins back a day.

Once they did that, all the cruiserweights essentially became heavyweights who decided to dry out a couple pounds and then rehydrate before fights to pick up a belt. Usyk weighed 200 pounds as an amateur. So did Wilder.

Usyk just decided to keep drying out and rehydrating so he could pick up belts at cruiserweight, and Wilder just decided not to dry out and go after a heavyweight belt.

But they essentially weigh the same when they get in the ring.

It's not like that in the other divisions.

 

It's not fantasy. The networks have been asking guys to step on scales for "unofficial weigh ins" going back to the Jones-Toney fight nearly 25 years ago.

Did you just start watching boxing? You sound like it.

I'm done with you. You're just arguing to argue and you clearly don't know enough about the sport to do that.

 

Golovkin lost fair and square. He got beaten with no contraversial this time. You are the casual, Golovkin had his worst year and you wanna put him forward ahead of the undisputed champ.

Rungvisai was inactive. He should have been in the running when he beat Gonzalez not now. I like Dogboe but Magdaleno is good but nothing special and that’s the only above average fight Dogboe beat. If he goes on to beat Roman and Vargas I will say he should be in the running but he shouldn’t even be in the running.

Garcia could be in the running but Lipinets is C+ level and Easter is B level but it’s just one win Usyk has 4.

 

Let's say it´s a legit win. It's just one win.
Usyk beat 3 of the best guys in his division and unified the division.

IMO in this case quantity trumps quality.

 

I can’t believe GGG fan boys still exist loool Face it lost to the younger, fresher more technical man.

Juarez got beaten by donaire who is washed up, yes he got an injury win over Burnett but he is a shadow of his old self.