Can You Think of Another Fighter Who Has Been Managed as well As Cotto?

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  1. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I cant in recent history. He has been matched perfectly. He has been given exaclty what he was ready for and challenged at the right moments. If he can get past Mosely, he will have a shot at PBF at 28 years old and without taking much if any punishment in the ring.

    For all the bad management in boxing that we see (enter Vargas here), Cotto´s has been great. I have to think that if Fernando was managed like this his legacy may have been different.
     
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  3. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Of course it does, but you can manage talent to the sky or drive it into the ground. This is not a thread intended to take credit away from Cotto, just to say that his career has been complemented by a good plan.

    Oh and Cotto will get past Mosely late.
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    This is the problem with boxing. Too many promoters are trying to perfectly match their fighters who don't have much of a chance of beating them instead of putting them in with the best fighters availible. Say what you want about Vargas, but his career is where it is right now because he just wasn't good enough. Unfortunately, because of how the sport is set up, promoters are motivated to pad their fighters record for years before putting them in a big money fight, which may or may not be against a legitimate threat.
     
  5. Caper

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    Plenty of fighters have been managed well it all depends on how they rise and complete each hurdle thrown at them. I can think of a few but one that comes to mind is surely ODLH, he fought good names that where either past their prime or fighters that had previously fought Tito and got smashed small enough for DLH to consume, similar to a bird regurgitating already half digested foods for their offspring.
     
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    you need talent look at valuev he was managed very well
     
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  8. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    But thats just the thing, Cotta HAS been in entertaining fights, even fights where he has been in trouble. He hasnt just fought bums.

    And now he is going to give us great fights, against top fighters, while he himself is is in his absolute prime.

    Would you rather watch a 28 year old Vargas get pummeled around the ring with no reflexes because his **** management threw him in with men when he was a boy ( or the supposed ¨best available fights¨)?
     
  9. Caper

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    Vargas has fought some of the best and for that my hat goes off to him. One thing he had was balls of steel, I'm sure his preformance vs DLH was effected by being shell shocked by Tito. Though DLH would have probably out classed him anyway. Nuff respect to Vargas he does have a win against Winky who thrashed Tito and would have probably made DLH look a bit silly as well. Vargas always had a better preformance vs Ike when compared to DLH's last second dramatics.
     
  10. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Whats your point?

    Every fighter is different, Floyd was a prodigy who possesed great speed and athleticism.

    Cotto is a preasure fighter who depends on power and body work, and has to grow into these attributes. He would not have been ready as soon as Floyd.

    Different fighters and yes Floyd has obvioulsy been managed fine for the fighter he is.
     
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  12. Caper

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    Well you never officially know until fight night, its pretty much rolling the dice once you hit mid level fighters. I'm sure Joel Julio's management thought their fight with Quintana was a sure win. Then you have guy's who almost got done in like Berto vs Cosme.
     
  13. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Ok I understand.

    I just think Cottos team has take the right gambles at the right time (true hindsight tells all).
     
  14. Caper

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    That kind of mentality can get you a custom made pine coffin messing with the wrong type of fighter that just had a child and needs money for the milk.
     
  15. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Yep thats a good example. I thought Julio would beat Quintana easily too. Turns out he doesnt know how to adapt, I dont think Julio is the sharpest knife in the drawer.