CAN YOU TRUST USADA? MAY-SADA?

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  1. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Justin Fortune busted for PEDs. Isn't it funny Pac started doing well when he joined Wildcard gym with Fortune as his S&C coach? Ariza shakes were suspect according to Roach himself. Nobody is clean in boxing. At least some of us have our eyes open. I won't argue that Floyd is clean. You have to be seriously blind if you think athletes are clean these days.

    Nobody goes up in weight without giving up something. Pac got faster and bigger. Even Floyd lost his speed as he moved up.
     
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  2. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is officially clean and he is officially 49-0.
     
  3. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Sorry that isn't mounting evidence, and no he grew naturally, never bigger ( muscle mass wise) or faster, stayed the same.

    Floyd took 2 years off, did come back bigger muscle mass, less body fat, same weight, problems making weight initially, illegal IV drips, gifts from big corporations, stablemates all getting busted for PED's, working with steroid distributors, violent outbursts, anger, paranoia etc etc, the list is too much.
     
  4. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Following up on diuretics used to mask PED use and IV treatments used to flush out diuretics.... funny Floyd did this when his good friend and stable mate J D'eon love tested positive for a diuretic.

    More and more evidence mounts
     
  5. Bad News Brit

    Bad News Brit Active Member banned Full Member

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    I trust USADA about as much as I trust these Nigerian's that email me asking for my bank details.
     
  6. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    The more you dig, the more you uncover:

    – Al Haymon exclusively uses USADA for all of his drug testing. USADA does not report full test results to state governing athletic committees. They also do not employee carbon isotope testing, which is the most effective drug test.

    – Mayweather uses contracts that allow for therapeutic use exemptions (TUE) to be retroactively granted after someone tests positive for a prohibited drug. What’s the point of even having testing if you can just get a waiver for it after you fail a test? Mayweather gave Pacquiao a contract that included this clause.

    – Mayweather was rumored to have failed drug tests for three consecutive fights but was granted retroactive TUEs by USADA.

    – Mayweather’s people agreed to settle a defamation suit with Pacquiao quickly — and for more money than expected — as soon as Pacquiao’s side began demanding documents regarding Mayweather’s drug tests through USADA and the NSAC.

    – Mayweather had abnormally low T/E (testosterone) ratios prior to the Robert Guerrero and Victor Ortiz fights. Low T/E ratios could indicate tampering/efforts to lower your ratio to cover up testosterone use.

    – USADA regularly does not submit information to the Nevada State Athletic Commission. For instance, the NSAC would not allow Pacquiao to receive a Toradol pain-killing injection prior to their May fight, but Floyd was granted a retroactive TUE that was applied for and granted two weeks after the fight.

    – USADA saw Mayweather using an illegal IV a day before his fight with Pacquiao but did not notify the athletic commission about it until weeks after the fight. The IV could be used to dilute the blood and cover up PED use.

    As we have learned many times in the past, the more guilty the party, the more vigorous the defense. Why has Mayweather been so outspoken about PEDs and accusing Pacquiao? Perhaps because he had something to hide. After all, remember Pacquiao said Mayweather was only using the drug testing talk as an alibi not to fight him. And maybe this is why Mayweather refused to sign a waiver that would have paid Pacquiao $5 million for a failed drug test.
     
  7. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Yes funny that it's a non profit organisation but accepts contracts of 250k from TMT, then Mayweather refuses to sign a PED fine waiver.... i mean if you are clean, why refuse the waiver?
     
  8. Bad News Brit

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    Bare in mind they change their own rules to suit Mayweather.

    If you recall they refused to do drug testing for Brook v Porter because apparently they needed at least 6 weeks......then do Mayweather v Berto at 5 weeks notice.
     
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  9. LomachenkoIsTBE

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    Floyd cult followers don't have a valid excuse so they usually deflect at this point and say Mayweather was officially declared clean - but they don't understand the fallacy of circular reasoning.
     
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  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    The NSAC saying Mayweather is clean & 49-0 is like the Nazi's saying Adolf Hitler was a saint
     
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  11. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    USADA hands out TUEs for money like tic tacs.
     
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