Can young pros have too many fights?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by colinthfc, Nov 26, 2011.


  1. colinthfc

    colinthfc Guest

    Buglioni has had 2 quick fights and Boxnation gives him the platform to be a regular Friday night feature.

    I cannot see the downside as long as he keeps on learning. However it was mentioned in his 2nd post fight interview about his fans buying tickets 2 weeks on the trot.

    Having a KO victory every other week I assume would help his group of fans grow rather than pissing the diehards
     
  2. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Not of that sort for fight, no. Getting out often is the best thing for learning and getting a good following.
     
  3. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    You can never have enough fights at this embryonic stage. In fact young pros are not getting out often enough.

    Look at how many times great fighters fought in the first few years. It's vital to development.
     
  4. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's only a bad thing if they're fed stiffs every time and they're knocking them over without learning much.
     
  5. TheUzi

    TheUzi MISSION INCOMPLETE Full Member

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    But if they were all good fighters, good tests, thats where the risk of burn out occurs. Esp if they're fighting a lot.
     
  6. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

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    They can fight once a week no hassle, don't need to take shocking tests in the first year, but different opponents help, sluggers, southpaws, negative survivors, all of these things will make a young prospect show/learn something different throughout the year, and prepare them for stiffer tests in their second year.
     
  7. They can have too many amateur fights yes.
     
  8. FMJ

    FMJ Member Full Member

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    The problem with young pro,s boxing to much is a lot of there fights are meaningless and they dont learn anything from them . I think its good to have maybe 6-8 journey men fights then fight other boxers who are as good as them selfs so as to get better by beating boxers who try to win .
     
  9. Evian McGirt

    Evian McGirt Drink some water baby! Full Member

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    So long as there's a progressive arc of competition/duration then no.

    I'd put more value in frequent, learning fights than hours upon hours of sparring with fights every 2/3 months.
     
  10. Fighters benefit from being tested early and not being wrapped in cotton wool. I find nothing more frustrating than seeing inactive young fighter who when they are matched are not pushed, challenged and learning from the fights they have. Many fighters have lost any potential they had, or at least a lot of it due to being fed guys they beat easily.
    Variety of styles is needed, and barring injury, they need to be as frequent as possible.
    And before you ask, the person who I would use as an example is Paul smith. He is a good boxer, who has declined as a result of wazza and the match makers putting him against below average opposition early on in his career too much. He only fought for the central area title after 16 fights. Really he should have been pushed on quicker. I genuinely believe he has suffered as a result of wazza not showing more faith earlier.
    The thing is, in those days wazza had a few money makers. They're running out now, hence degale being pushed onearly, signing groves etc.
     
  11. Gooners2

    Gooners2 Archie Solis Full Member

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    This.

    I would say you dont wanna get into a situation where the fighter is learning more in the gym than he is on the job, cause if that's the case it might mean the quality of opposition is not good enough. I would say having the right balance is important because when fighters dont run into problems they tend to stick with whats working, thus potentially not reevaluating what they could improve on. It only tends to be when mistakes get exploited (highlighted), that they knuckle down and work harder to eradicate them, as they know what to work on when its been exploited to a degree.

    All fighters trot out the line "I'm still leaning", but how many times have you seen certain fighters making the same mistakes years down the line?
     
  12. Gooners2

    Gooners2 Archie Solis Full Member

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    How many fighters will have got into double figures for wins fighting lesser opponents only for the fans to finally realize, when they lose, that they weren't all they were cracked up to be, and that one of the reasons they've had so much longevity without already being beaten, is because they've never been in a sink or swim scenario fighting a guy who's really gonna test them? Promoters will do everything they can to bludgeon as much money as possible out of the unsuspecting paying public, particularity the casuals, as its so easy to coerce public perception if you have access to media(a platform)

    Haye might catch some heat from fans, but at-least he stepped up his competition relatively early.
     
  13. HeavyT

    HeavyT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep, arl Thompson in your 10th fight or whatever is mighty impressive here in the UK.
     
  14. canonball1234

    canonball1234 New Member Full Member

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    I had 12 now I have one in 3 weeks then I fight Tony hill
    January
     
  15. WalletInspector

    WalletInspector Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Tony Hill was meant to be Billy Joe Saunders next opponent a few weeks back.

    Good fight for you, that is. Good luck. :good